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a real mystery 30's (?) electric gramophone

Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 12:48 pm
by kirtley2012
I picked this up at a car boot sale, I didn't know what it was then, I still don't, but at £5 I cant go wrong!
it might be homemade but I have no idea.
it has what appears to be a victor induction motor
a pine case, dovetail joints.
the knob on the right is obviously a replacement, if the actual function (on/off/volume) is original I have no idea!
on the bottom of the motor, there is a orange wire, is that a ground wire?, when I plug it in, I don't want to blow up the whole house.
I haven't plugged it in yet for two reasons, I don't know if this motor will blow up with our 240v or if it was made for that and it still has its old British, two pin Bakelite plug on it which I am yet to change
what's your opinion's on it?
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Re: a real mystery 30's (?) electric gramophone

Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 12:52 pm
by Norfolkguy
Sounds really interesting, will you post pictures soon? :)

Re: a real mystery 30's (?) electric gramophone

Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 1:11 pm
by howardpgh
Homemade or not that is a cute little machine.
See if you can find a data plate on the motor, it should tell you the required voltage.
That orange wire looks like it could be a ground for the motor case. Do I see a diagram near the switch?

Re: a real mystery 30's (?) electric gramophone

Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 1:32 pm
by kirtley2012
the label is a diagram of the motor, it says it is a hmv motor, I hadn't read it when I thought it was a victor, so this is a hmv 24A motor, I don't know much about these induction motors though!
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Re: a real mystery 30's (?) electric gramophone

Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 4:22 pm
by kirtley2012
the tracking on this needed some serious adjustment!, it is probably not the "original" tonearm be cause the needle was about 1" behind where it should be, im not sure if I should find the "original" hmv arm or try to adjust this one and leaving the holes, anyone have a hmv one?

Re: a real mystery 30's (?) electric gramophone

Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 7:36 pm
by larryh
Any chance the outside might have been leatherette covered and it was bad so they removed it and kept the wood case?

Re: a real mystery 30's (?) electric gramophone

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 12:33 pm
by kirtley2012
larryh wrote:Any chance the outside might have been leatherette covered and it was bad so they removed it and kept the wood case?
I don't believe there ever was a covering, there is no evidence of it

Re: a real mystery 30's (?) electric gramophone

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 2:42 pm
by howardpgh
Kirtley,
I was looking at the pictures of your machine.
It looks like the movement of the original tone arm activated the switch under the turntable to start and stop it. The switch with the knob looks like it was added later.

Re: a real mystery 30's (?) electric gramophone

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 2:56 pm
by kirtley2012
howardpgh wrote:Kirtley,
I was looking at the pictures of your machine.
It looks like the movement of the original tone arm activated the switch under the turntable to start and stop it. The switch with the knob looks like it was added later.
yes you are correct