The Talking Machine Forum — For All Antique Phonographs & Recordings

It is currently Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:58 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: crown gramophone
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:38 am 
Offline
Victor Jr
Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:17 am
Posts: 5
Has anyone heard abt the crown gramophone before? Here is a picture of it.
http://www.tooveys.com/lots/176122/2682.JPG


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: crown gramophone
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:33 pm 
Offline
Victor III
Joined: Sun May 27, 2012 2:38 pm
Posts: 646
Location: United Kingdom
Judging by the arm and the bevelled "Garrard" style turntable, I'd say it's a made-up job, although the horn looks to be original. The case itself looks like a butchered HMV? Did any manufacture put two identical trade marks on one cabinet, and put glass panels into it? And is that arm actually attached to the back bracket in any way?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: crown gramophone
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:19 pm 
Offline
Victor VI
I have good days...this might not be one of them
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:23 pm
Posts: 3871
Location: Albany NY
Very much a made-up job. A dealer in the UK found large quantities of unused decals with a variety of names on them. He's still selling them on Ebay & they have been found giving a look of legitimacy to some doubtful machines.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: crown gramophone
PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:35 am 
Offline
Victor Jr
Newcastle Australia
Joined: Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:24 am
Posts: 6
This is a video of mine. I put it togther, its only the case, and horn original to eachother.
https://youtu.be/Ycmz7EIQKbg


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: crown gramophone
PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:43 am 
Offline
Victor III
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:18 am
Posts: 860
Actually this type of gramophone was sold in Indonesia, I have seen others like that with identical case, and was offered one by a person who had bought it in Jakarta in the seventies, but I did not buy it, as the arm looked fitted from a portable or a tabletop, just like this one. It could be after all that this is how these machines were made, with those unfitting arms. There is a number of horn machines shown in Asian books that carry such arms, but without more precise sources I remain in the speculative area.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: crown gramophone
PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:00 am 
Offline
Victor V
His epigrams are all his own, the man's an epigramophone!
Joined: Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:21 pm
Posts: 2277
Location: The Somerset Levels, UK.
O ye of little faith!

This is a perfectly genuine machine made in the 1930's by or for the Kwong Loong Chan Company of 200 South Bridge Road, Singapore, who held the HMV dealership in Singapore for many years. Their solicitors took an advertisement in the Straits Times in June 1936 to establish the Company's right to use the Crown name on the gramophones and accessories which they made.

An article about the Crown gramophone by Howard Hope appeared in the CLPGS magazine "For the Record" Spring 2016 Issue No.57.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: crown gramophone
PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:56 am 
Offline
Victor V
User avatar
Joined: Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:17 am
Posts: 2950
Location: Where there's "hamburger ALL OVER the highway"...
Reminds me somewhat of a machine I saw in an antique shop in Kuala Lumpur, back in '93.

I recognize the glass panels in the case, and the rather small pillar-and-plate motor. It had a "swan's neck" tone arm that had been broken and rather lumpily brazed together at some point...

Oh, and as for the CLPGS magazine article, is there perchance a link to that?

Bill


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: crown gramophone
PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:04 am 
Offline
Victor IV
Joined: Mon May 13, 2013 2:04 pm
Posts: 1402
photo


Attachments:
acrow.JPG
acrow.JPG [ 422.72 KiB | Viewed 1214 times ]
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: crown gramophone
PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:19 am 
Offline
Victor V
His epigrams are all his own, the man's an epigramophone!
Joined: Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:21 pm
Posts: 2277
Location: The Somerset Levels, UK.
Lucius1958 wrote:
Reminds me somewhat of a machine I saw in an antique shop in Kuala Lumpur, back in '93.

I recognize the glass panels in the case, and the rather small pillar-and-plate motor. It had a "swan's neck" tone arm that had been broken and rather lumpily brazed together at some point...

Oh, and as for the CLPGS magazine article, is there perchance a link to that?

Bill


Some back copies of the magazine containing this article are still available from the Membership Secretary at http://www.clpgs.org.uk.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: crown gramophone
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:30 am 
Offline
Victor Jr
Newcastle Australia
Joined: Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:24 am
Posts: 6
soundgen wrote:
photo


My Crown didnt get the side glass panels.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
Americanized by Maël Soucaze.