No Steve I don't. Considering all the "extra's" that sold with the machine. For all we know there could be some $$$$ in the 35 records alone. A US model of the same date and in near mint condition would sell here from $5000-$7000. No case or records, nothing.Steve wrote:So £4200 isn't "high dollars" in your book? The reproducer looked reproduction to me or at least re-nickel-platedAll you had to do was check the auction house archive to learn this lot sold for 3500 pounds plus premium. It is not a "trade-mark" in the true sense. In fact, it is a much later model of an "Improved" Berliner Gramophone. I should add that the machine came with 30+ records, carrying case, reproducer box and other extra's. These UK and European model's just don't command the high dollars the US model's do.
It's not a big secret to those who have been involved in this hobby for awhile to know US collectors want US machine's and will pay more for them.
Being a Canadian collector....the same can be said about our Berliner's. I personally like the Canadian models. They are really the same as the post 1899 US models. I say "post 1899" because, Berliner started up here in January 1900. All the components (except the wood parts) were made in the US and shipped up. Berliner had Bell (making wooden telephone's) make up the cases and arms. Using "box corners" just like they constructed their phone boxes.
BTW, the needle bar is broken on the reproducer of the UK Berliner....look at it carefully. I too think the reproducer is suspect.
Here is Canadian "Improved" Berliner #837 (1900) . With it's owners manual. They look good to me... .