Do columbia 202's have any pot metal?
- 12jslater
- Victor II
- Posts: 270
- Joined: Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:11 pm
- Location: Wolverhampton, Uk
- Contact:
Do columbia 202's have any pot metal?
Such as the back bracket or anything else?
- gramophone-georg
- Victor VI
- Posts: 3995
- Joined: Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:55 pm
- Personal Text: Northwest Of Normal
- Location: Eugene/ Springfield Oregon USA
Re: Do columbia 202's have any pot metal?
No sign of any pot metal on mine.
"He who dies with the most shellac wins"- some nutty record geek
I got PTSD from Peter F's avatar
I got PTSD from Peter F's avatar
- 12jslater
- Victor II
- Posts: 270
- Joined: Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:11 pm
- Location: Wolverhampton, Uk
- Contact:
Re: Do columbia 202's have any pot metal?
cheers i'm just going to service mine and I wanted to know if there was anything I should be weary off.
-
- Victor IV
- Posts: 1315
- Joined: Sun May 27, 2012 2:38 pm
- Location: United Kingdom
Re: Do columbia 202's have any pot metal?
They certainly do! The complete inner horn, from the base of the arm to the point at which it "swivels" is made if pot-metal. The most common problem with this, the 201, and the 112 are breakages of the pot metal joint at the base of the arm.
-
- Victor Monarch Special
- Posts: 5230
- Joined: Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:21 pm
- Personal Text: An analogue relic trapped in a digital world.
- Location: The Somerset Levels, UK.
Re: Do columbia 202's have any pot metal?
The end of the long thin pot metal horn pivots on lugs with the larger tin horn. These lugs can break and are tricky to repair.
Having re-attached the broken lug with super glue, I have successfully drilled through the entire assembly and inserted a threaded rod secured with lock nuts at both ends. Even if the lug breaks again, the rod should still hold the assembly together.
It is a pig of a job, and had my 112a (ancestor of the 202) not been the brown crocodile version I would have scrapped the machine.
Having re-attached the broken lug with super glue, I have successfully drilled through the entire assembly and inserted a threaded rod secured with lock nuts at both ends. Even if the lug breaks again, the rod should still hold the assembly together.
It is a pig of a job, and had my 112a (ancestor of the 202) not been the brown crocodile version I would have scrapped the machine.
- 12jslater
- Victor II
- Posts: 270
- Joined: Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:11 pm
- Location: Wolverhampton, Uk
- Contact:
Re: Do columbia 202's have any pot metal?
Is there anything to do to preserve them such as coating the entire pot metal section of the horn in epoxy?
-
- Victor IV
- Posts: 1315
- Joined: Sun May 27, 2012 2:38 pm
- Location: United Kingdom
Re: Do columbia 202's have any pot metal?
I've never tried, but I don't think it would do much good. When the pot metal backs on HMV No.5 soundboxes expand, they often break the brass fronts, so I would imagine with power like that, a coat of thin epoxy would be useless.
- Marco Gilardetti
- Victor IV
- Posts: 1398
- Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:19 am
- Personal Text: F. Depero, "Grammofono", 1923.
- Location: Italy
- Contact:
Re: Do columbia 202's have any pot metal?
To the best of my knowledge, pot metal "pest" is not typical only of zamac but descends directly from the use of zinc, which decrystalizes in presence of lead impurities in the alloy. The process is accelerated by humidity, but aside of keeping the item in a dry place there is no other way to prevent or arrest zinc pest, as the original compound of the alloy obviously cannot be changed or purified.
For small objects with principles of pest I've seen someone immersing the object in cyanoacrylate glue, that will fill by capillarity even the smaller and invisible cracks and will help keeping everything together. Of course for big objects such as the elbow of a horn, a cyanoacrylate bath may be impossible to do.
For small objects with principles of pest I've seen someone immersing the object in cyanoacrylate glue, that will fill by capillarity even the smaller and invisible cracks and will help keeping everything together. Of course for big objects such as the elbow of a horn, a cyanoacrylate bath may be impossible to do.