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The Nazi fables are amusing, but the fact is that Germany was the largest trade partner of Brazil from the turn of the 20th century up to the start of the WWII. Moreover,German Parlophon installed a factory there with the first Brazilian-pressed Odeon record in 1912. Parlophon imported machines to Brazil as well, so it is not surprising to find German gramophones from this period there. This particular one evidently was very well kept, as its condition is great, besides the imposing design.

My conspiracy theory for this machine is that it was carried by the deposed kaiser Wilhelm II when he escaped to Brazil, leaving his lookalike in Holland, as it is widely known today.

CarlosV wrote: My conspiracy theory for this machine is that it was carried by the deposed kaiser Wilhelm II when he escaped to Brazil, leaving his lookalike in Holland, as it is widely known today.

Andreas

CarlosV wrote:The Nazi fables are amusing, but the fact is that Germany was the largest trade partner of Brazil from the turn of the 20th century up to the start of the WWII. Moreover,German Parlophon installed a factory there with the first Brazilian-pressed Odeon record in 1912. Parlophon imported machines to Brazil as well, so it is not surprising to find German gramophones from this period there. This particular one evidently was very well kept, as its condition is great, besides the imposing design.

My conspiracy theory for this machine is that it was carried by the deposed kaiser Wilhelm II when he escaped to Brazil, leaving his lookalike in Holland, as it is widely known today.

I think you finally solved this mystery...

Andreas Gramophones wrote:I noticed the panels better, you are right, they are in three different shades, the most worn and deep is of silver color, this can be seen in the photo on the foot of the angel and in the thigh of the flautist and the violinist.
Nothing like asking who understands ... thanks Jerry for the comment.

Wow, looks great! Glad I could help, in a very small way, to increase its beauty!

CarlosV wrote:My conspiracy theory for this machine is that it was carried by the deposed kaiser Wilhelm II when he escaped to Brazil, leaving his lookalike in Holland, as it is widely known today.

If this were true............the winder would have been on the other side!

US PHONO wrote:

CarlosV wrote:My conspiracy theory for this machine is that it was carried by the deposed kaiser Wilhelm II when he escaped to Brazil, leaving his lookalike in Holland, as it is widely known today.

If this were true............the winder would have been on the other side!

I think the Kaiser would have employed a servant to wind it for him.

I really love European phonographs like this one. To me, they have so much class unlike the usual cookie cutter machines. I live near Seattle, WA, and over the years, very nice European horned machines came my way by either antique stores,craigslist and private sales. Nothing I have comes close to what you have. Enjoy your machine.
Harvey Kravitz

Phonofreak wrote:I really love European phonographs like this one. To me, they have so much class unlike the usual cookie cutter machines. I live near Seattle, WA, and over the years, very nice European horned machines came my way by either antique stores,craigslist and private sales. Nothing I have comes close to what you have. Enjoy your machine.
Harvey Kravitz

Wow, very happy with your comment, I already knew it was something special and desirable but I did not imagine it would be so rare. Happy with the purchase, now is putting it in a prominent place in the collection and enjoy this wonder!
The operation is very satisfactory, I did not have to do anything besides lubricate.

I forgot to show the player, I do not remember where someone else charged me the photo ...

The panels remind me very much of WMF products, it would be worth examining them closely to see if they are marked
http://www.ascasonline.org/windowFEBBRA105.html

Steve