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 Post subject: Phonograph project-Which model?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:35 am 
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Hey All
I'm currently restoring this phonograph. I bought it a few months ago in Ringe on Funnen (A Danish island.) It was rather worn and the restoration process has begun.
It "only" needs: to get its spring restored and get my hands on a new soundbox/reproducer. Which one would match? The base needs to get restored, it's in a bad condition with a lot of worm holes... But it's starting to look like something. The phonograph is most likely german and a very early one, but if anyone has an idea about the brand, I'd like to hear it. I've been looking for something like it for a long time, but haven't been able to find a model similar. It's incredibly simple the way it has been built.

I know that I principally have "removed" some of its originality, but there was so much rust that it had to be removed. Perhaps I'll coat the top plate with nickel again, but for now, this is how it looks. I'll give it a new life now, it used to stand in the moist basement of a farm, slowly dying...
I'm getting some help from a fellow collector back home, so I think it is in good hands :)
I will post some updates.

But for now, my questions is, how does I nickle plate the pieces? And where can I get a spring, that would fit?
I got the horn, but the Phonograph is missing a soundbox/Diafragme??


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 Post subject: Re: Phonograph project-Which model?
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And some pictures after the rust was removed.


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 Post subject: Re: Phonograph project-Which model?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:20 am 
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You can get the spring made by Ron Sitko. If you have the original give him the dimensions. If not, You have to give him the dimensions of the spring barrel. The width, the inside diameter and what type of connections. His # is 518-371-8549. He is in NY.

Bob


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 Post subject: Re: Phonograph project-Which model?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:22 am 
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How to Nickel Plate at Home:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=27955&hilit=nickle+plating+plating
"The phonograph† is not of any commercial value."
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.

"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
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 Post subject: Re: Phonograph project-Which model?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:52 am 
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Bob wrote:
You can get the spring made by Ron Sitko. If you have the original give him the dimensions. If not, You have to give him the dimensions of the spring barrel. The width, the inside diameter and what type of connections. His # is 518-371-8549. He is in NY.

Bob


Do you know someone in Europe?


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 Post subject: Re: Phonograph project-Which model?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:15 am 
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No, I do not.


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 Post subject: Re: Phonograph project-Which model?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:44 am 
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This machine looks as if it was designed to take a Columbia-type 'floating' reproducer (i.e. one which is made in one piece, without the separate hinged weight used by Edison). An EWC (Excelsior) reproducer might well fit; this was a German firm and their products seem to be compatible with machines made or inspired by Columbia. I am attaching images of an EWC recorder; the reproducer would presumably look very similar.

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 Post subject: Re: Phonograph project-Which model?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:27 am 
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Billehifi wrote:
Bob wrote:
You can get the spring made by Ron Sitko. If you have the original give him the dimensions. If not, You have to give him the dimensions of the spring barrel. The width, the inside diameter and what type of connections. His # is 518-371-8549. He is in NY.

Bob


Do you know someone in Europe?


You could try to contact this company http://www.zwarteschijf.nl/. They are very helpful and responsive. Not sure if they have main springs, but it doesn't hurt to ask.
Ken Priestley in the UK is also very helpful http://www.fonograf.com/
Another option is this person in Germany, but I do not have personal experience with him http://www.grammophon-bastler.de/ersatzteile/

Good luck!
Andreas


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