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HMV Horn Gramophone identification

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:19 pm
by stevel
I jut picked this up from a local auction and it seems to be a late machine for a horn gramophone , would anyone know what model/year it might be?
The motor board is 13.5 inches square , it has a No 2 soundbox and a double spring motor.
As far as I can make out the Reference is HWO

Thanks
Steve

Re: HMV Horn Gramophone identification

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:33 pm
by brianu
that's strange, I've never seen a turntable hold-down ring/clip on anything but a portable.

Re: HMV Horn Gramophone identification

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:35 pm
by Jaso
The motor looks like a HMV no.32. According to late Graham Barber it was used 1921-41. The speed control seems to be similar to Dennison, except the base looks a bit different? My guess is early 20’s if the transfer on the front is legit and the no.2 soundbox correct?

Jaso

Re: HMV Horn Gramophone identification

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:43 pm
by epigramophone
The "thick frame" HMV logo was introduced in 1924, so I think what you have is a very late Model 24 which was produced from July 1922 to December 1924. The No.32 motor and the No.2 soundbox are both correct for this period.

Re: HMV Horn Gramophone identification

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:46 am
by stevel
Thanks all - I did manage to find one picture of a Model 24 which doesn't show detail , so I'll search for an original catalogue or illustration

Re: HMV Horn Gramophone identification

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:22 am
by soundgen
you can buy appropriate logos on Ebay to restore the machine


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-BIG-HMV-fo ... XQCgpRpmYv

Re: HMV Horn Gramophone identification

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:04 am
by stevel
soundgen wrote:you can buy appropriate logos on Ebay to restore the machine
That's great , thanks for that

Re: HMV Horn Gramophone identification

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:33 am
by soundgen
stevel wrote:
soundgen wrote:you can buy appropriate logos on Ebay to restore the machine
That's great , thanks for that

that's OK although why they make you buy two I don't understand unless they are difficult to apply , I have an original black painted horn ( needs TLC ) which I think is from this model which I believe take the small HMV plug in elbow , I'll post some pictures for you to see

Re: HMV Horn Gramophone identification

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:20 am
by epigramophone
Here is the only image I could find of a similar machine with the (very indistinct) framed HMV transfer :

Re: HMV Horn Gramophone identification

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:35 am
by stevel
soundgen wrote: that's OK although why they make you buy two I don't understand unless they are difficult to apply , I have an original black painted horn ( needs TLC ) which I think is from this model which I believe take the small HMV plug in elbow , I'll post some pictures for you to see
That sounds good , I don't mind a bit of work :)