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 Post subject: How rare are the Blue and Red HMV 102 machines?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:27 am 
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How rare are the HMV 102 machines in red and blue?


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 Post subject: Re: How rare are the Blue and Red HMV 102 machines?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:52 am 
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not very, remember, the 102 sold for a very long time. One in good, original condition on the other hand - quite rare!


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 Post subject: Re: How rare are the Blue and Red HMV 102 machines?
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Was there not a red 101, and a red 102 with gold plated (instead of nickel plated) metal pieces. Those look really impressive, and probably quite desirable?


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 Post subject: Re: How rare are the Blue and Red HMV 102 machines?
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Of the colors offered, Brown and Grey leatherette are not common here in the USA. The red was offered in leather with gold gilt which again is not very common here.

Sidewinder, yes, the 101 and 102 both were offered in red and red leather (according to the Cooper book).


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 Post subject: Re: How rare are the Blue and Red HMV 102 machines?
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101s and 102s are as rare as Bing Crosby's White Christmas record! It appears that every English person born between 1900 and 1950 was given one, probably by Royal decree. There are multiple variations, including the color versions that you mention, but the only ones you can call rare are the colonial models. Blue and red 102s are offered daily in the UK ebay. One that is less common, but I would not call rare, is the de luxe version of the 101, covered in red leather and with gilt parts.


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 Post subject: Re: How rare are the Blue and Red HMV 102 machines?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:55 am 
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Retrograde wrote:
Of the colors offered, Brown and Grey leatherette are not common here in the USA. The red was offered in leather with gold gilt which again is not very common here.

Sidewinder, yes, the 101 and 102 both were offered in red and red leather (according to the Cooper book).


Brown and Grey 102's are uncommon because they sold poorly and were discontinued in the mid 1930's. The red leather 102 was discontinued at about the same time, as it proved too expensive in the depression years to sell in any quantity.

The really rare 102's are the Pale Green and the Pink versions, which are not even mentioned in the Cooper book. I understand that the few Pink survivors have mostly faded to a creamy colour. I have seen one Pale Green 102 in over 50 years collecting but have never seen a Pink one.


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 Post subject: Re: How rare are the Blue and Red HMV 102 machines?
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epigramophone wrote:
I have seen one Pale Green 102 in over 50 years collecting but have never seen a Pink one.



I've never seen a pale green one, but about thirty years ago, I was offered a pink one in sparkling condition, and was told it had belonged to Barbara Cartland. (probably a made-up story?). Unfortunately, at the time, I couldn't afford what the seller wanted for it - £75.00! Never regretted anything so much in all my life.


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 Post subject: Re: How rare are the Blue and Red HMV 102 machines?
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epigramophone wrote:
Sidewinder, yes, the 101 and 102 both were offered in red and red leather (according to the Cooper book).
The really rare 102's are the Pale Green and the Pink versions, which are not even mentioned in the Cooper book. I understand that the few Pink survivors have mostly faded to a creamy colour. I have seen one Pale Green 102 in over 50 years collecting but have never seen a Pink one.


Graham wrote on his site: The 102E (blue and red) was produced for 10 years between 1948 and 1958.

http://www.graham-ophones.co.uk/hmv-red ... 4581320882


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