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 Post subject: Electrola
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:27 pm 
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Victor I
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Electrola German made tabletop

Have not seen this one before. Any information would be appreciated. For sale whiten driving distance for me.

Edited to correct name


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 Post subject: Re: Electora
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:03 pm 
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Basically a German Orthophonic Victor. Snag it! :D


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 Post subject: Re: Electora
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:08 pm 
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I'd snag it if I were you!

The brand, by the bye, is "Electrola," not "Electora." Both sound suitably antique, though.


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 Post subject: Re: Electora
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:25 pm 
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Thanks,

Orlando show tomorrow and Saturday so will see if I can go see it on Sunday.

It is going cheap but would like an estimate on value?


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 Post subject: Re: Electrola
PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:59 pm 
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Picked it up today along with a table top Columbia Grafonola .... Total for both $220.00

Will post pictures tomorrow.

I do not believe the reproducer is original to the machine. It has a Goldring reproducer.

Any thoughts?


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 Post subject: Re: Electrola
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:46 am 
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Herman wrote:

I do not believe the reproducer is original to the machine. It has a Goldring reproducer.

Any thoughts?

The original reproducer for these machines is a Electrola-labeled version of the English HMV4 (similar to the Victor 4). Electrola nr 4 reproducers are not that common, but their English HMV counterparts are, you can find them at least weekly for sale on the English ebay. If you don't care much for the authenticity, the Goldring is a good reproducer, and it may perform as well as the nr 4 on this machine.


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 Post subject: Re: Electrola
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:52 am 
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CarlosV wrote:
Herman wrote:

I do not believe the reproducer is original to the machine. It has a Goldring reproducer.

Any thoughts?

The original reproducer for these machines is a Electrola-labeled version of the English HMV4 (similar to the Victor 4). Electrola nr 4 reproducers are not that common, but their English HMV counterparts are, you can find them at least weekly for sale on the English ebay. If you don't care much for the authenticity, the Goldring is a good reproducer, and it may perform as well as the nr 4 on this machine.

Thanks Carlos. You confirmed what I thought. I will keep the Goldring on the machine and keep my eyes open for the correct reproducer.


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 Post subject: Re: Electrola
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:11 pm 
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A few snaps of the Electrola 4 and 4A for reference


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 Post subject: Re: Electrola
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:19 am 
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There is one for sale at the German ebay, see https://www.ebay.de/itm/Electrola-No-4-Schalldose-Grammophon-Soundbox-Gramophone-Phonographe/254098095637?hash=item3b296d3e15:g:hDYAAOSwmT1b79dg:rk:12:pf:0

Unfortunately it looks like it has a damaged mica.


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 Post subject: Re: Electrola
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:01 pm 
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It's not an Orthophonic Victrola, it's an HMV Model 109, made in London but badged 'Electrola' for the German market where, as a result of WW1, The Gramophone Company no longer had the rights to the HMV trade mark. It dates from about 1927.


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