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 Post subject: Does anyone know if this one is genuine or a frankenphone?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:38 pm 
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Does anyone know if this one is genuine or a frankenphone?


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know if this one is genuine or a frankenphon
PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:40 pm 
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My gut reaction is that it's a genuine HMV.

The 'folk art' painting on the horn is rather unusual, though.

Bill


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know if this one is genuine or a frankenphon
PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:24 am 
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It appears to be an Intermediate Monarch Model 2. Hopefully the added artwork on the horn can be removed with care.


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know if this one is genuine or a frankenphon
PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:23 pm 
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epigramophone wrote:
It appears to be an Intermediate Monarch Model 2. Hopefully the added artwork on the horn can be removed with care.


I think the artwork is kind of cool and part of the history. I think either the horn or elbow is the wrong one though as the drawings and the Nipper are all upside down.


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know if this one is genuine or a frankenphon
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:30 pm 
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Looks perfectly genuine to me; the reason the trade mark on the horn is upside down is probably that the horn has shifted round within the metal'cuff' that fits into the elbow. Strictly speaking, it's a model 2, not an Intermediate Monarch (that name was dropped before the mahogany case came in.) If it was made between September 1912 and August 1913, it's a 2A. If it was made between July 1922 S October 1925, it's a Model 20. Have you looked underneath to see if there's a date?


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know if this one is genuine or a frankenphon
PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:50 pm 
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Oedipus wrote:
Looks perfectly genuine to me; the reason the trade mark on the horn is upside down is probably that the horn has shifted round within the metal'cuff' that fits into the elbow. Strictly speaking, it's a model 2, not an Intermediate Monarch (that name was dropped before the mahogany case came in.) If it was made between September 1912 and August 1913, it's a 2A. If it was made between July 1922 S October 1925, it's a Model 20. Have you looked underneath to see if there's a date?


I haven't because it's not in my possession, but I'm thinking about bidding on it. Here are several pictures the seller has added.
https://imgur.com/a/Zvb2bhl


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone know if this one is genuine or a frankenphon
PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:22 pm 
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I know nothing but what I like. I do like this machine. I'd leave the art work too. I'd bid on it too! Neil


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