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 Post subject: One of Franks O phones?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:07 pm 
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Dealers plaque says Vienna Austria (S. Hollander) and found an ad from the dealer in German I think. So is this one of Franks phonos? The sound box says Odeon. The brake is German I've been told. Sounds good and I liked the looks so I bought it a couple years ago now. What are your thoughts? Neil


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 Post subject: Re: One of Franks O phones?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:38 am 
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The quality of the case, in Burr Walnut with elaborate stringing and cross banded veneers, is superb. A very good find indeed.


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 Post subject: Re: One of Franks O phones?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:02 pm 
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Epigramophone is right, it is a fine case. I was a bit suspicious at first as front-wind is unusual but I can't see any evidence of a changed motor. I do find the dealers plate rather detracting to the machines appearance though, the way it is mounted. I wonder if the 5 figure telephone number doesn't suggest the plaque is later than the machine. Perhaps it was sold second-hand by this dealer or added more lately?

Jamie


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 Post subject: Re: One of Franks O phones?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:59 pm 
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Thanks you two for your thoughts. I had never seen a front wind except in photos of an older VV 50 and one or two others. What the heck I never saw or heard of that sort of design either. So it struck my fancy. I only had to have the brake fixed once. Nothing else. Ron L'Herault in Massachusetts fixed it in one day. I was and am very happy. Thanks again. Neil


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 Post subject: Re: One of Franks O phones?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:32 am 
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I wonder if the 5 figure telephone number doesn't suggest the plaque is later than the machine. Perhaps it was sold second-hand by this dealer or added more lately?


The ugly plaque advertises for "Plattenumtausch ab 20 Heller aufwärts" (i.e. the dealer would buy used records for at least 20 Heller each). The currency unit "Heller" (1/100 Austrian Crown, equivalent to a Cent) was formally withdrawn in 1925, but valueless since 1918 due to post-war Inflation. The plaque is most likely pre-1914, so it cannot be much more recent than the machine itself.


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 Post subject: Re: One of Franks O phones?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:45 pm 
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Accursius wrote:
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I wonder if the 5 figure telephone number doesn't suggest the plaque is later than the machine. Perhaps it was sold second-hand by this dealer or added more lately?


The ugly plaque advertises for "Plattenumtausch ab 20 Heller aufwärts" (i.e. the dealer would buy used records for at least 20 Heller each). The currency unit "Heller" (1/100 Austrian Crown, equivalent to a Cent) was formally withdrawn in 1925, but valueless since 1918 due to post-war Inflation. The plaque is most likely pre-1914, so it cannot be much more recent than the machine itself.

Thanks for this information. Very interesting indeed. Neil


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