Will someone please identify this machine for me?

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fmlondon
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Will someone please identify this machine for me?

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Is this machine from 1910? What is it?
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It is a Pathé with dual arms and internal horns. There was a recent thread about it.

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How old is it?

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CarlosV wrote:It is a Pathé with dual arms and internal horns. There was a recent thread about it.
Where is the thread?

I am interested in disc machines with two soundboxes.

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That looks like the twin tonearm model shown on this page -- https://www.tsf36.fr/enphonos.htm
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On this forum, using google site search, I found this -- http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... 14&t=38717
(Google site search for Pathé Two Tonearms: https://www.google.com/search?q=site:fo ... 48&bih=544

I think that's the post Carlos was talking about.

Not sure of the age, but it looks to be from the teens based on the components.

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OrthoFan wrote: I think that's the post Carlos was talking about.

Not sure of the age, but it looks to be from the teens based on the components.

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Yes, this is it. I also think that the machine is from the mid-teens.

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Post by OrthoFan »

I just found this -- http://www.phonograph.nl/disk_phonograp ... gramophone

According to Guido Severijns, this version of the Pathé Duplex, which is the same one posted by the OP, dates to around 1910. Seems there were a few variations of the Pathé Duplex--some with two tonearms and turntables.

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One more link; http://www.grammophon.ch/tisch_grammoph ... ophone.htm
I also think that this machine is from around 1920 rather than from the mid teens.

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One should not confuse the Olophone and the Duplex

Olophone - 1 turntable & 2 tone arms for a kind of "stereo" effect, somewhat like the German Ultraphone

Duplex - 2 turntables 2 tone arms. Purpose of this machine (no, not to organize your own disco) was to overcome the short playing time of a record by recording entire opera's on a dozen or four records and play them sequentially - switching over from turntable to turntable as the playing record neared its end. Record sides were alternately numbered 1 /3, 2/4 so that one had time to turn over the alternate record. So yes in a way, the operator was jockeying the discs, and if done well, you could seamlessly breeze through an entire opera. 2 hours of fun....(I think Carmen was over 80 sides!)

Duplex ad is from 1914 & Olophone from 1918. Olophone used the day/night system. (External horn for the day, Internal for night-time so as not to disturb the neighbours...too much.)
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