Odeon System Vadesz Bauhaus Gramophone

[flying500]

Does anyone have a copy of the Instuction sheet for these models or have any experience working on them?
If so I would very much appreciate a copy of the instructions or any advice.
Thank you
Jerry

[CarlosV]

Does anyone have a copy of the Instuction sheet for these models or have any experience working on them?
If so I would very much appreciate a copy of the instructions or any advice.
Thank you
Jerry

I have one of these gramophones, but not its instruction sheet, but the machine is not difficult to utilize. What is the problem with your machine?

[flying500]

Hi Thank you for the reply.
I am having a probem removing the turntable.
I want to service the motor and the arm bearing which is a little stiff in operation.
I can see that if I remove the turntable i can the remove the screws holding the top plate and gain access to the motor and arm fixings. but until I can remove the turntable I am stuck.
I also require the spring clip to hold the arm out of play position which I may need to make

[CarlosV]

I am having a probem removing the turntable.

The turntable will lift by applying vertical pressure upwards with both hands - it is not screwed. It may be stuck due to age, rust etc, so tapping on the center will help, but be careful: the particularity of this machine is that the spindle is not integral to the motor, the visible part that fits in the record hole is actually a cap that sits in the actual spindle, and has a spring between them, so when you lift it be careful to not lose both parts (spindle cap and spring). The photos below should clarify, you can see the spring inside the turntable cap in one of them, and that the cap recesses - but, at least in the case of my machine, does not fall off - when you remove the turntable.

[flying500]

Thank you for the photos. They are very imformative.
Do you know why there is a spung top section?
Have you removed the tonearm and if so what is the bearing arrangement and how much play should there be?

[CarlosV]

Thank you for the photos. They are very imformative.
Do you know why there is a spung top section?
Have you removed the tonearm and if so what is the bearing arrangement and how much play should there be?

It escapes me why there is a spring in the spindle, actually I had never noticed it until last night when I removed it to take the photos. I opened the arm years ago to clean it, and my recollection is that it is a simple metal-to-metal connection with no bearings. I just tried it now and there is no play in the arm, it rotates well around its axis with no lateral play.

Concerning the missing retaining clip, it is a big fat clip, it will not be easy to find another one, so manufacturing a new piece would be the way to go.

[flying500]

Thank you again. It is really helpful.
Would you be able to photograph the clip for me please?
Do you remember how the tonearm is attached as i removed the thre screws securing the cover plate at the base of the arm but it did not appear removeable from there?
Many Thanks again.

[CarlosV]

Would you be able to photograph the clip for me please?
Do you remember how the tonearm is attached as i removed the thre screws securing the cover plate at the base of the arm but it did not appear removeable from there?
Many Thanks again.

Here it is.

Unfortunately I don't recall how to remove the arm, but to open the machine I had to unscrew some bolts on the sides.

I found the reason for the spring on the spindle: when you close the machine, the flap on the lid presses against the spindle, lowering it to the level of the turntable and therefore preventing it from dislodging during transport. Smart system!

[flying500]

Thank you once again but it is the clip on the joint on the tonearm which keeps the arm raised when changing ta record.

[CarlosV]

Thank you once again but it is the clip on the joint on the tonearm which keeps the arm raised when changing ta record.

OK, got it. Here it is, taken from the bottom.