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Well, I think this might be a hodgepodge of (some) original parts, but there's either a sad attempt at a hold down clamp or a washer around the spindle.

-Jack


http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-ANTIQUE-T ... Ciid%253A1

The motor is an HMV 400 series as used in the early Model 101 portables from 1925 to 1928.

The "wide frame" HMV transfer design dates from 1924/25.

Enough said......

I think it is a hodgepodge of original parts made into a gramophone. I don't think this was manufactured that way.
Harvey Kravitz

It is actually an original ! There were 4 late machine HMV horn models 29 , 30 , 31 and 32 , the only one well known is the HMV 32 , two had sloping backs , two had straight backs , the 32 and another the 32 had 12 " turntables and 4 spring HMV motors , the other 12 " turntable machine had the HMV 32 motor the other two machines had the small HMV motor and the 10" turntable , the horn may be an original horn but doesn't belong to this gramophone , somewhere I have a catalogue copy showing all 4 machines and will try and find to poat

I WAS Thinking it was OK ill I hit the label ( banged up to age it) and the motor. The bolt does not fit it well. It could be legit but It looks 50/50 of being that. Tom B

soundgen wrote:It is actually an original ! There were 4 late machine HMV horn models 29 , 30 , 31 and 32 , the only one well known is the HMV 32 , two had sloping backs , two had straight backs , the 32 and another the 32 had 12 " turntables and 4 spring HMV motors , the other 12 " turntable machine had the HMV 32 motor the other two machines had the small HMV motor and the 10" turntable , the horn may be an original horn but doesn't belong to this gramophone , somewhere I have a catalogue copy showing all 4 machines and will try and find to poat

I agree with you, it seems a bona fide Indian-market HMV machine apart from the horn. The ultimate verification would be to check the motor board, it should have the serial number and some letter codes pressed on the wood, but the seller did not post photos of it. The bad shape of the decal is to be expected, they did not age well on these machines due to either climate conditions or incompatibility with the varnish or the teak wood which is quite oily. I have three of these Indian HMVs (29, 32, 33), and a teak 101, all with decal decay.

This must be the predecessor of the Indian Crap-O-Phone industry...

Curt A wrote:This must be the predecessor of the Indian Crap-O-Phone industry...

Except they were made by HMV !

Its still on Ebay now 1 !

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-ANTIQUE- ... 2217919462