https://www.ebay.com/itm/253131916510
Pretty cool little machine. Wouldn’t mind having it if it wasn’t for the price
1902 PHÉNIX Phonograph
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Re: 1902 PHÉNIX Phonograph
pic for future...
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Re: 1902 PHÉNIX Phonograph
These were made to play only Phénix cylinders, which were slightly smaller in diameter than the Salon cylinders shown with that machine. The seller shows an interesting workaround, putting a sheet of cardboard around the mandrel to enlarge it enough to hold a Salon cylinder. There actually were slip-on adapters made at the time which served the purpose much better, but they are rare today.
Years ago while visiting Paris I stopped in at the store of the legendary Mme. Stéger, north of the flea market in St. Ouen. She just happened to have bought a giant stash of Phénix cylinders, in immaculate condition (they're brown wax), and which she priced ridiculously cheap. I was frustrated that I could only carry a few home (one of which didn't survive, alas).
I have a much cheaper version of the Phénix phonograph but it has no feedscrew and is a bit of a pain to play. I'd love to have the auction one, but not at the price.
Years ago while visiting Paris I stopped in at the store of the legendary Mme. Stéger, north of the flea market in St. Ouen. She just happened to have bought a giant stash of Phénix cylinders, in immaculate condition (they're brown wax), and which she priced ridiculously cheap. I was frustrated that I could only carry a few home (one of which didn't survive, alas).
I have a much cheaper version of the Phénix phonograph but it has no feedscrew and is a bit of a pain to play. I'd love to have the auction one, but not at the price.
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Re: 1902 PHÉNIX Phonograph
I thought I saw in one of the pics that there was a slip on mandrel to the side.
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Re: 1902 PHÉNIX Phonograph
You might be thinking of this... which is the original horn container... there is no mandrel sleeve shown.EdisonWizard wrote:I thought I saw in one of the pics that there was a slip on mandrel to the side.
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Re: 1902 PHÉNIX Phonograph
my apologies! you're correct, I was thinking of another phono I saw on ebay earlier. ill post a link...I think it had one.Curt A wrote:You might be thinking of this... which is the original horn container... there is no mandrel sleeve shown.EdisonWizard wrote:I thought I saw in one of the pics that there was a slip on mandrel to the side.
http://r.ebay.com/72RTvM
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Re: 1902 PHÉNIX Phonograph
That one is a slip on mandrel, but it's to go from regular cylinders to Salon-size. Similar to the AB Columbia with a slip on mandrel to go from regular to Concert/Grand.
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Re: 1902 PHÉNIX Phonograph
This is the second and more rare version of the Phenix.melvind wrote:pic for future...
I have seen less than 5-6 in the last 20 years.
This is the best example I have seen, especially with the horn case and red label.
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Re: 1902 PHÉNIX Phonograph
**Update. Since my initial post I discussed this machine with a major European collector.GeorgeDixon wrote:This is the second and more rare version of the Phenix.melvind wrote:pic for future...
I have seen less than 5-6 in the last 20 years.
This is the best example I have seen, especially with the horn case and red label.
Ben
He has concerns with the red labeling not being original, as well as the horn case.
The crank is also not correct.