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 Post subject: Great deal on a Rigid Arm!
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:47 pm 
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Why hasn't this already sold?! Seems like a screaming deal to me. I don't have the money or room right now, but someone should get this.

http://r.ebay.com/9Su8vJ

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 Post subject: Re: Great deal on a Rigid Arm!
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:37 pm 
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FWIW... It has been listed several time and hasn't had any bids.


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 Post subject: Re: Great deal on a Rigid Arm!
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:14 pm 
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I think it's a great deal as well but I am in the same money/ space conundrum.

I'm thinking that eBay buyers have no idea what they are looking at and are suspicious... either that or eBay and not the seller slapped "best offer" on there and the seller is getting lowball offers only. Maybe both.

The forced "best offer" is the latest eyerolling "help" for sellers courtesy of eBay. They're starting to do it on auction listings also if they "feel" you are overpriced or your item hasn't sold quickly enough.


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 Post subject: Re: Great deal on a Rigid Arm!
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:16 pm 
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I am surprised also that this hasn't sold yet. It has been listed and re-listed several times. Rigid arm Victors are VERY hard to find. This one looks complete and all correct.
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 Post subject: Re: Great deal on a Rigid Arm!
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:30 pm 
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With shipping, $2500.00 Sorry guys, I'm not seeing a bargain here.


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 Post subject: Re: Great deal on a Rigid Arm!
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:09 pm 
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That's the going rate for a complete, original Rigid Arm Victor. This is a pre-dog one. If the elbow and record hold down are original, this will be a great deal. Those two original parts are extremely tough to find.
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 Post subject: Re: Great deal on a Rigid Arm!
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:18 pm 
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I see a couple things: Pre-Dog machine with a Victor decal on the horn and maybe it's just the photos but that elbow looks like it's collapsed under the weight of the horn. These may be red flags to potential bidders?


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 Post subject: Re: Great deal on a Rigid Arm!
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:16 pm 
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It's not really clear from the picture if the elbow is a correct original... It looks to be, but it appears to be at a 90 degree angle - either bent or a regular front mount elbow. If it is bent, it is difficult to fix correctly and if it is a front mount elbow, then it will be difficult to find the correct elbow to complete it. Also, a B&B horn with the Victor decal is not correct for this machine. I had a Pre-Dog Monarch Rigid Arm machine like this one several years ago with a broken elbow... it took 13 years of hunting to find an original replacement.

From the listing: "The brass bell horn is in excellent condition with a very good dog decal."
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 Post subject: Re: Great deal on a Rigid Arm!
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:41 pm 
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The elbow is correct. It has the proper reinforcing collar at its base. It's just a bit collapsed, like 90% of these are. Turntable edge painted silver? Poor felt. Poor nickle. Rare?: Yes. Worth $2500, maybe. A bargain: NO.


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 Post subject: Re: Great deal on a Rigid Arm!
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:59 pm 
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JerryVan wrote:
The elbow is correct. It has the proper reinforcing collar at its base. It's just a bit collapsed, like 90% of these are. Turntable edge painted silver? Poor felt. Poor nickle. Rare?: Yes. Worth $2500, maybe. A bargain: NO.


I don't agree with it not being a bargain. I've been watching these at shows over the last 10 years and I have never seen one for such a low price.
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