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 Post subject: Danbury, CT - L-door XVI $400 on Craigslist
PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:12 pm 
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Not mine. Looks to have drawer but no record boxes.


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 Post subject: Re: Danbury, CT - L-door XVI $400 on Craigslist
PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:58 pm 
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This is a late l-Door before the switch to the more conventional VV-XVI. Note the tab brake, not the bullet brake. An interesting variation.
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 Post subject: Re: Danbury, CT - L-door XVI $400 on Craigslist
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I notice this one does not have the auto brake. Were these not standard on the XVI at the time?
(I have the same version, but with the auto brake.)

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 Post subject: Re: Danbury, CT - L-door XVI $400 on Craigslist
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Lucius1958 wrote:
I notice this one does not have the auto brake. Were these not standard on the XVI at the time?
(I have the same version, but with the auto brake.)

Bill


You probably have a retrofitted auto brake, one that was added after the machine was manufactured. I don't know for sure, but I think these were offered as an upgrade when they came out in 1913. The retrofitted auto brake pole is clamped around the tonearm.

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 Post subject: Re: Danbury, CT - L-door XVI $400 on Craigslist
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Correct, even the very first XVIs without the L-doors didn't have the auto-brake, at least mine doesn't and never did.

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 Post subject: Re: Danbury, CT - L-door XVI $400 on Craigslist
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Mine has auto brake, the pole for auto brake isn't clamped on but part of the tone arm. Auto brake looks original as well to the machine.
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 Post subject: Re: Danbury, CT - L-door XVI $400 on Craigslist
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 Post subject: Re: Danbury, CT - L-door XVI $400 on Craigslist
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oldphonographsteve wrote:
Lucius1958 wrote:
I notice this one does not have the auto brake. Were these not standard on the XVI at the time?
(I have the same version, but with the auto brake.)

Bill


You probably have a retrofitted auto brake, one that was added after the machine was manufactured. I don't know for sure, but I think these were offered as an upgrade when they came out in 1913. The retrofitted auto brake pole is clamped around the tonearm.

Stephen


Thanks! Obviously the original owner was keeping up with the times...

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 Post subject: Re: Danbury, CT - L-door XVI $400 on Craigslist
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Mine has auto brake, the pole for auto brake isn't clamped on but part of the tone arm. Auto brake looks original as well to the machine.


I've seen and owned many L-doors over the years and I've never seen one with an original auto-stop. Any I have seen were the retro fit kits. My Gunmetal Oak L-door came with the kit still in the box inside the drawer. The owner bought it, but never installed. Furthermore, why would the first non L-door XVIs only have a manual brake if earlier L-doors had the auto-stop, that doesn't follow VTMCo logic. Edison, perhaps, but Victor was usually consistent. Yours may have had the entire tonearm changed, you never know what some of these machines went through over the decades.

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 Post subject: Re: Danbury, CT - L-door XVI $400 on Craigslist
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OrthoSean wrote:
EdisonWizard wrote:
Mine has auto brake, the pole for auto brake isn't clamped on but part of the tone arm. Auto brake looks original as well to the machine.


I've seen and owned many L-doors over the years and I've never seen one with an original auto-stop. Any I have seen were the retro fit kits. My Gunmetal Oak L-door came with the kit still in the box inside the drawer. The owner bought it, but never installed. Furthermore, why would the first non L-door XVIs only have a manual brake if earlier L-doors had the auto-stop, that doesn't follow VTMCo logic. Edison, perhaps, but Victor was usually consistent. Yours may have had the entire tonearm changed, you never know what some of these machines went through over the decades.

Sean


I agree, your tonearm was replaced with a newer one.
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