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 Post subject: Re: Is this a Franken?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:10 pm 
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150$ is max what I would pay for a Swiss/German machine in this condition if I could pick it up locally and inspect there are no nasty surprise issues hidden inside the cabinet. It is usually bad news if the machine looks like it has been cobbled together by some phonograph enthusiast...


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 Post subject: Re: Is this a Franken? (posted in fakes as well)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:02 pm 
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After looking at the numerous pics on the link, I believe that this is an authentic machine... If it was closer to me, I believe that I would go for it.
"The phonograph† is not of any commercial value."
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.

"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
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 Post subject: Re: Is this a Franken?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:04 pm 
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After looking at the numerous pics on the link, I believe that this is an authentic machine... If it was closer to me, I believe that I would go for it. In the US, these are not common, so the $325 price doesn't seem bad, if you want it...
"The phonograph† is not of any commercial value."
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.

"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife


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 Post subject: Re: Is this a Franken? (posted in fakes as well)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:33 pm 
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Curt A wrote:
After looking at the numerous pics on the link, I believe that this is an authentic machine... If it was closer to me, I believe that I would go for it.


Thanks guys, I am next in line if the first guy falls though. Who knows....


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 Post subject: Re: Is this a Franken? (posted in fakes as well)
PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:35 am 
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In Imperial Russia until 1917 there was a factory gramophone furniture.Photo from the catalogue 1914.Hardware
made by Parlophone company


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 Post subject: Re: Is this a Franken? (posted in fakes as well)
PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:13 am 
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ts_13 wrote:
This is the description.

"Unit does not have a label, but the sound box is labeled "Parlophon." Purchased from the estate of a man who restored these beauties, so it is not certain if the entire unit is a Parlophon brand player or has some Parlophon replacement parts"


Yes it does gave a label :-) You can just make out the £ sign

Maestro2009 - great that you could locate the picture in a catalog, thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Is this a Franken? (posted in fakes as well)
PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:31 am 
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Wow! Great find, I am impressed you dug that up.


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 Post subject: Re: Is this a Franken?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:34 am 
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Proven Real :)

viewtopic.php?f=14&p=209738#p209738


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 Post subject: Re: Is this a Franken?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:50 am 
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Jaso wrote:
To me this looks like a legitimate machine with a wrong size horn and a later soundbox. I had a very similar octagonal Parlophon Luxophon. It also had very odd proportions with a huge cabinet and a small 10” turntable, but was a genuine machine. This is a picture of identical machine to mine.

almost.From catalog Parlophon 1909


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