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 Post subject: Re: Berliner 5" AND TWO ROYAL BERLINERS
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 10:32 am 
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Auctioneer sent me a picture of the 5" Berliner it's not a CD !


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 Post subject: Re: Berliner 5" AND TWO ROYAL BERLINERS
PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 12:43 pm 
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So from what you are saying , there was a genuine Berliner in the lot after all ! It certainly wasn't there when I viewed on Monday , possibly the auctioneers had removed it for photographs ? seems very odd -- but there was definitely an audio CD in the small cardboard envelope when I viewed the lot. Maybe they had been alerted to keep it safe separate from the other items in the lot ? Who knows !!


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 Post subject: Re: Berliner 5" AND TWO ROYAL BERLINERS
PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:07 pm 
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Dulcetto wrote:
So from what you are saying , there was a genuine Berliner in the lot after all ! It certainly wasn't there when I viewed on Monday , possibly the auctioneers had removed it for photographs ? seems very odd -- but there was definitely an audio CD in the small cardboard envelope when I viewed the lot. Maybe they had been alerted to keep it safe separate from the other items in the lot ? Who knows !!


Yeah.....uh huh........ :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: Berliner 5" AND TWO ROYAL BERLINERS
PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 10:26 pm 
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While I appreciate the heads up on upcoming auctions, I'm not sure I appreciate the attention to specific lots... I was thinking about bidding on this group of records after I located it in the auction listing, but now it has also had almost 600 views on this site... Not much chance of getting this at a reasonable price, kind of like "pumping and dumping" new stock market IPOs... :roll: :lol: :(
"The phonograph† is not of any commercial value."
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.

"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife


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 Post subject: Re: Berliner 5" AND TWO ROYAL BERLINERS
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 1:38 am 
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Curt A wrote:
While I appreciate the heads up on upcoming auctions, I'm not sure I appreciate the attention to specific lots... I was thinking about bidding on this group of records after I located it in the auction listing, but now it has also had almost 600 views on this site... Not much chance of getting this at a reasonable price, kind of like "pumping and dumping" new stock market IPOs... :roll: :lol: :(


To be honest we're all after the same things, the Saleroom has become like ebay where everyone has a saved search for 'Gramophone' or 'Phonograph'

Steve


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 Post subject: Re: Berliner 5" AND TWO ROYAL BERLINERS
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 10:45 am 
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Lot 2555 sold for £2,600 plus buyer's premium, which is an additional £780 or thereabouts, so total £3,380. I have it on good authority the buyer is in South America. Dulcetto


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 Post subject: Re: Berliner 5" AND TWO ROYAL BERLINERS
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 1:42 pm 
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This lot with the 2 commemorative Berliners and the 5" Berliner made £2600 + comm = £3364

The "Trademark" made £1800 + comm = £2329

The Gram / Phonograph (a lot more complete than the one amazingly for sale this week in Scotland) made £1100 + comm = £1423

The 2 Berliner cabinets made £2300 + Comm = £2976


The 18 Berliners and other records made £ 700+ comm = £905


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 Post subject: Re: Berliner 5" AND TWO ROYAL BERLINERS
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 4:06 pm 
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Never seen a Queen Victoria commemorative berliner for sale before.

Both the commemoratives originally had a wooden plinth and decorative boxes. The Edward VII commemorative I have seen under 200 just for the record part.


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 Post subject: Re: Berliner 5" AND TWO ROYAL BERLINERS
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 4:37 pm 
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As Sidewinder mentions , this is the first time I have seen a Queen Victoria Berliner come up for sale at an auction. The Edward VII does turn up from time to time , I have seen several examples over the years. Complete with wooden plate ( to enable the record to be played ) and the original cardboard box , around £400. Again , I have seen several 5 inch Berliners sold in recent years , anywhere between £300 and £1000 each , I suppose depending upon condition etc. The example in this lot did look to be in nice condition from the pictures posted on this forum , although I did not view it in person. Seems the price paid for this lot was rather on the high side , but then if one has deep pockets and wants something -- that's what auctions are all about -- the man , or woman , who is prepared to spend the most money wins ! I do know that the winning bidder was prepared to go somewhat higher ! Dulcetto


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 Post subject: Re: Berliner 5" AND TWO ROYAL BERLINERS
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:48 pm 
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If lot 2555 is the one with the 5" Berliner, it's heading to Belmont, NC...

Unfortunately, not to me...
"The phonograph† is not of any commercial value."
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.

"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife


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