A Gramophone & Phonograph to rescue ?

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A Gramophone & Phonograph to rescue ?

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I just like the look of both of these.

Is the Phonograph from around 1898 I wonder ?


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Wind ... rk:38:pf:0


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GRAMOPHONE-C ... rk:44:pf:0
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The Columbia 'Eagle' is going to need a good deal of work, including a reproducer and carriage.

In extreme close-up, I think I can see "New York" at the bottom of the decal. That would be the "Broadway" decal, used from 1897 to some time in 1899; combined with the serial number, I think 1898 is a good estimate.

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Lucius1958 wrote:The Columbia 'Eagle' is going to need a good deal of work, including a reproducer and carriage.

In extreme close-up, I think I can see "New York" at the bottom of the decal. That would be the "Broadway" decal, used from 1897 to some time in 1899; combined with the serial number, I think 1898 is a good estimate.

Bill

Thank you very much Bill. Most interesting.

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The gramophone is an HMV Model 58 "hornless" i.e. a table model with no lid to keep the dust off. This design is not popular with collectors, and prices reflect this.

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epigramophone wrote:The gramophone is an HMV Model 58 "hornless" i.e. a table model with no lid to keep the dust off. This design is not popular with collectors, and prices reflect this.
Thank you epigramophone. I see that it may be from 1922 from the model number you kindly gave.

I still like both of these but have no :cry: room

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"Eagles" don't take up much room, but you don't want that one. If it were free, the cost of restoring it would probably equal (or possibly exceed) its value.

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phonogfp wrote:"Eagles" don't take up much room, but you don't want that one. If it were free, the cost of restoring it would probably equal (or possibly exceed) its value.

George P.
I understand what you say but I would just give it a little home for a few years.

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epigramophone wrote:The gramophone is an HMV Model 58 "hornless" i.e. a table model with no lid to keep the dust off. This design is not popular with collectors, and prices reflect this.
They aren't bad machines- the performance of the US equivalent (VV-VI) is superior to the the VV-IX table top (with a lid) and nearly as good as the VV-IX. If only there weren't so many of them.

The Smaller VV-IV with a 10 inch turntable is actually more popular with collectors because it is fairly light and portable.

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estott wrote:
epigramophone wrote:The gramophone is an HMV Model 58 "hornless" i.e. a table model with no lid to keep the dust off. This design is not popular with collectors, and prices reflect this.
They aren't bad machines- the performance of the US equivalent (VV-VI) is superior to the the VV-IX table top (with a lid) and nearly as good as the VV-IX. If only there weren't so many of them.

The Smaller VV-IV with a 10 inch turntable is actually more popular with collectors because it is fairly light and portable.

Interesting. It is good to hear USA and UK gramophone comparisons.

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As phonograph collectors, although we “think” that we need them...they actually need us more.
Get them both!

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