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 Post subject: HMV 192 with original wooden tone arm ?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:02 am 
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I thought that this looks very interesting maybe ?

I have never seen an HMV with a wooden tone arm before.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Extremely-Rare-Antique-HMV-OAK-TABLE-GRAND-GRAMOPHONE/183847990418?hash=item2ace31b492:g:BMQAAOSwQ-BdA9jS


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 Post subject: Re: HMV 192 with original wooden tone arm ?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:46 am 
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Could this have been made during WW-I because of the shortage of brass and steel?
It is very interesting.


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 Post subject: Re: HMV 192 with original wooden tone arm ?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:01 am 
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It's a standard model 9 (TE TEO, as shown on the paper label) and made in England 1915-1922, not America, where it would have been a Victrola, not HMV. The wooden arm is very clumsily mounted, the base block is partially over the original screws, which would not have happened had this been original, and the whole arm looks definitely home-made.


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 Post subject: Re: HMV 192 with original wooden tone arm ?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:05 am 
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The original metal tonearm would have had a rear support. I suspect that this broke, and that the wooden replacement was the work of an enthusiastic amateur.


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 Post subject: Re: HMV 192 with original wooden tone arm ?
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Most interesting.

I notice that the machine has a couple of registered design numbers shown on the paper sticker.

Are these (designs) still available to view somewhere I wonder - like at some government patents office archive somewhere ?
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 Post subject: Re: HMV 192 with original wooden tone arm ?
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So where's the 192? All I can see is an average table grand with home made arm?


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 Post subject: Re: HMV 192 with original wooden tone arm ?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:07 pm 
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Steve wrote:
So where's the 192? All I can see is an average table grand with home made arm?


Here ! :D


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 Post subject: Re: HMV 192 with original wooden tone arm ?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:08 pm 
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Skihawx wrote:
Could this have been made during WW-I because of the shortage of brass and steel?
It is very interesting.

No and it's not interesting , home made bodge !


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 Post subject: Re: HMV 192 with original wooden tone arm ?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:13 am 
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At the risk of stating the obvious, the original poster mistook 192 to be the model number when it is the serial number.


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 Post subject: Re: HMV 192 with original wooden tone arm ?
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Exactly. The model number is listed to the side of where it says "Reference"


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