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HMV 192 with original wooden tone arm ?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:02 am
by poodling around
I thought that this looks very interesting maybe ?

I have never seen an HMV with a wooden tone arm before.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Extremely-Ra ... SwQ-BdA9jS

Re: HMV 192 with original wooden tone arm ?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:46 am
by Skihawx
Could this have been made during WW-I because of the shortage of brass and steel?
It is very interesting.

Re: HMV 192 with original wooden tone arm ?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:01 am
by Phono48
It's a standard model 9 (TE TEO, as shown on the paper label) and made in England 1915-1922, not America, where it would have been a Victrola, not HMV. The wooden arm is very clumsily mounted, the base block is partially over the original screws, which would not have happened had this been original, and the whole arm looks definitely home-made.

Re: HMV 192 with original wooden tone arm ?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:05 am
by epigramophone
The original metal tonearm would have had a rear support. I suspect that this broke, and that the wooden replacement was the work of an enthusiastic amateur.

Re: HMV 192 with original wooden tone arm ?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:15 am
by poodling around
Most interesting.

I notice that the machine has a couple of registered design numbers shown on the paper sticker.

Are these (designs) still available to view somewhere I wonder - like at some government patents office archive somewhere ?

Re: HMV 192 with original wooden tone arm ?

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:09 pm
by Steve
So where's the 192? All I can see is an average table grand with home made arm?

Re: HMV 192 with original wooden tone arm ?

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:07 pm
by soundgen
Steve wrote:So where's the 192? All I can see is an average table grand with home made arm?
Here ! :D

Re: HMV 192 with original wooden tone arm ?

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:08 pm
by soundgen
Skihawx wrote:Could this have been made during WW-I because of the shortage of brass and steel?
It is very interesting.
No and it's not interesting , home made bodge !

Re: HMV 192 with original wooden tone arm ?

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:13 am
by epigramophone
At the risk of stating the obvious, the original poster mistook 192 to be the model number when it is the serial number.

Re: HMV 192 with original wooden tone arm ?

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:53 pm
by Steve
Exactly. The model number is listed to the side of where it says "Reference"