HMV 100 - early version

[poodling around]

Collection only.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/395320926428 ... R6LYvr7WYw

It is only 'around the corner' from me but I am happy with my later model 100.

[Steve]

Astonishingly low price expectations from the seller. It never ceases to amaze me the price extremes we see when non specialists get hold of items for re-sale.

If I was you I'd buy it at the B.I.N. price and then offer it for sale with shipping. Surely there's a profit to be made there? Its even got its original carrying handle, completely intact. That's not all that commonly seen!

[poodling around]

Astonishingly low price expectations from the seller. It never ceases to amaze me the price extremes we see when non specialists get hold of items for re-sale.

If I was you I'd buy it at the B.I.N. price and then offer it for sale with shipping. Surely there's a profit to be made there? Its even got its original carrying handle, completely intact. That's not all that commonly seen!

We both live about the same distance away ............ so I will race you there ha ha

I just can't be bothered with this to be honest. I have portable gramophones coming out of my ears.

There was a time .......... but for me, not these days.

Now, if it was an HMV 102 with a metal motor-board ...............

[Steve]

Astonishingly low price expectations from the seller. It never ceases to amaze me the price extremes we see when non specialists get hold of items for re-sale.

If I was you I'd buy it at the B.I.N. price and then offer it for sale with shipping. Surely there's a profit to be made there? Its even got its original carrying handle, completely intact. That's not all that commonly seen!

We both live about the same distance away ............ so I will race you there ha ha

I just can't be bothered with this to be honest. I have portable gramophones coming out of my ears.

There was a time .......... but for me, not these days.

Now, if it was an HMV 102 with a metal motor-board ...............

I have a dozen 102s with metal motor boards. What's the special appeal? They are probably more common than the wooden motor-boards and less desirable! The only reason I have so many is because I haven't got around to selling the spares (some are coloured case ones too) and every time I think about it there's one particular Ebay seller who's always selling multiple examples of common black 101s and 102s, so what's the point? Doesn't he ever get bored? I'm surprised he can even tell them apart!

[leels1]

Astonishingly low price expectations from the seller. It never ceases to amaze me the price extremes we see when non specialists get hold of items for re-sale.

If I was you I'd buy it at the B.I.N. price and then offer it for sale with shipping. Surely there's a profit to be made there? Its even got its original carrying handle, completely intact. That's not all that commonly seen!

We both live about the same distance away ............ so I will race you there ha ha

I just can't be bothered with this to be honest. I have portable gramophones coming out of my ears.

There was a time .......... but for me, not these days.

Now, if it was an HMV 102 with a metal motor-board ...............

I have a dozen 102s with metal motor boards. What's the special appeal? They are probably more common than the wooden motor-boards and less desirable! The only reason I have so many is because I haven't got around to selling the spares (some are coloured case ones too) and every time I think about it there's one particular Ebay seller who's always selling multiple examples of common black 101s and 102s, so what's the point? Doesn't he ever get bored? I'm surprised he can even tell them apart!

All the pictures that seller takes all look the same to me. Are they newly listed machines or just ones that don’t sell that are constantly re-listed?!

[Steve]

We both live about the same distance away ............ so I will race you there ha ha

I just can't be bothered with this to be honest. I have portable gramophones coming out of my ears.

There was a time .......... but for me, not these days.

Now, if it was an HMV 102 with a metal motor-board ...............

I have a dozen 102s with metal motor boards. What's the special appeal? They are probably more common than the wooden motor-boards and less desirable! The only reason I have so many is because I haven't got around to selling the spares (some are coloured case ones too) and every time I think about it there's one particular Ebay seller who's always selling multiple examples of common black 101s and 102s, so what's the point? Doesn't he ever get bored? I'm surprised he can even tell them apart!

All the pictures that seller takes all look the same to me. Are they newly listed machines or just ones that don’t sell that are constantly re-listed?!

No, believe it or not, he sells hundreds, literally hundreds, of 101s and 102's, mostly standard black cased types. I can't understand the appeal to be honest but more importantly, where does he find a constant source of dirt cheap ones to "restore"?

His photos are not very good either amd although he has a white background, he persists with photographing the case on the angle (why do people do this?) so all you see is reflections off the white and you can't see the condition of the case very clearly. For someone who knows his beans about HMV portables I'm surprised how little price differentials he places between the earliest models and later ones or more significantly, a black case versus a coloured one.

He does currently have a quite tasty red leather 101 which will very likely exceed the asking price by a significant margin.

[leels1]

Yes that red leather one looks in very good condition. It’s rare to see them turn up like that.

I often wonder where people get them “in bulk”. Perhaps they just have more time on their hands and can afford to go hunting all over.

Is the seller you mean bjosephineb? I can see a lot listed but only one blue 102 that recently sold.

[Steve]

Yes that red leather one looks in very good condition. It’s rare to see them turn up like that.

I often wonder where people get them “in bulk”. Perhaps they just have more time on their hands and can afford to go hunting all over.

Is the seller you mean bjosephineb? I can see a lot listed but only one blue 102 that recently sold.

Yes, that's him. He has been on Ebay for over 10 years or possibly over 20 and to my knowledge, during this time, his "bread and butter" sales have been black 101s and 102s. Maybe none he's listed recently have sold but he has definitely sold a ton of them down through the years. As I said earlier, the pricing at times is bizarre although he is a thoroughly decent chap if you find you've won something he's listed. I've had no cause to complain with the few items I've bought from him over the years.

[leels1]

Almost like it’s too good to be true. Black 102s going for £250/ £300 plus. Who pays those sorts of prices?

Maybe I’m being cynical but I’m sure there’s scams on eBay with things like this “selling”. Who’d ever think selling gramophones could be dodgy in general.

[Steve]

Almost like it’s too good to be true. Black 102s going for £250/ £300 plus. Who pays those sorts of prices?

Maybe I’m being cynical but I’m sure there’s scams on eBay with things like this “selling”. Who’d ever think selling gramophones could be dodgy in general.

The world of gramophones has had its fair share of "dodgy" dealers for a long time! As for the prices of 102s, I don't find the prices all that remarkable. They have been selling for well over £150 in good condition for as long as I can remember with almost mint examples nearing £350. The problem is - and this is one of my great bugbears about the way the trade and hobby is perceived in general - a lot of people are blissfully unaware of the condition of an item when it sells on any given day for a very low price or when an identical item sells for a very high price the next.

Condition is everything. For example, an average 102 might be £120-150 on a "normal" day but a factory condition example could easily fetch 3 times that. If you haven't personally inspected every item sold, you can't honestly judge whether the price is uncharacteristically high or low or whatever.

Whenever I hear anyone say, "that's a lot of money for xxxx", I usually ask them if they can get me one the same for a much cheaper price. They usually go very quiet!