#4 Victor Reproducer Question

Curt A · Post by **Curt A** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:49 am

Is the rubber isolator mount the same as an Orthophonic? If so, who has them?

Post by **gramophone-georg** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:06 am

Curt A wrote:Is the rubber isolator mount the same as an Orthophonic? If so, who has them?

No, No. 4 is different unless you're going to mount the #4 to an Orthophonic machine... but why?

I got a bunch from George Vollema last year.

Curt A · Post by **Curt A** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:50 pm

gramophone-georg wrote:
Curt A wrote:Is the rubber isolator mount the same as an Orthophonic? If so, who has them?
No, No. 4 is different unless you're going to mount the #4 to an Orthophonic machine... but why?

I got a bunch from George Vollema last year.

Thanks, I just want the correct one for the #4 on a VV 1-70...

HisMastersVoice · Post by **HisMastersVoice** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:20 pm

The 1-70 is the standard non-orthophonic tonearm size I believe so a normal #4 isolator should be fine.

Curt A · Post by **Curt A** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:28 pm

Thanks Brandon...

Phonofreak · Post by **Phonofreak** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:59 pm

Curt, Ron Sitko sells these parts. Like the other posters said, This will fit on a standard Victrola arm. This insert was also used on a Victrola No. 2. Also, this part will fit in an Orthophonic reproducer. I had an extra Orthophonic, and replaced the insert with one used on the 2 and 4. It fits perfectly. Not exactly correct, but my Victor V sure barks loud and clear. That's the fun part of this hobby.
Harvey Kravitz

Torjazzer · Post by **Torjazzer** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 1:52 pm

Curt A wrote: No, No. 4 is different unless you're going to mount the #4 to an Orthophonic machine... but why?

This would be an interesting experiment. I find that playing acoustically recorded discs on a large Orthophonic machine results in a muddiness, as if the machine is trying to add bass where none had been recorded; partly because of the exponential horn. I'm curious if fixing a No. 4 on a Credenza would bring a much-needed brightness.
Has anyone done this ? Any thoughts?

OrthoSean · Post by **OrthoSean** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 1:57 pm

Torjazzer wrote:This would be an interesting experiment. I find that playing acoustically recorded discs on a large Orthophonic machine results in a muddiness, as if the machine is trying to add bass where none had been recorded; partly because of the exponential horn. I'm curious if fixing a No. 4 on a Credenza would bring a much-needed brightness.
Has anyone done this ? Any thoughts?

10 or so years ago, there was a man in Texas who sold adapters for putting the non-ortho Victor soundboxes on an Orthophonic tonearm. I've got one, results using just about anything really didn't make any difference to my ears, if anything, the sound was weaker. I haven't even used the thing in years now, I suspect if I was impressed or it left any kind of positive memory with me, I'd be using it.

Sean

HisMastersVoice · Post by **HisMastersVoice** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:01 pm

My experience for the most part is that if the reproducer wasn't designed for a particular machine / horn design, it usually sounds like rubbish when mismatched. In this particular instance, Curt is putting the No. 4 on a machine that was designed for it.

Curt A · Post by **Curt A** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:19 pm

What does a brass #4 cost and does anyone have one for sale?

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