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 Post subject: Follow the restoration of an Edison "MANHATTAN" coin op
PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:20 pm 
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Atop its slender cast iron legs, this machine could certainly make the wait at the ferry terminal a little less boring and mediocre. 1c per play, for a full two minutes of musical escape. The Manhattan Phonograph Co ingeniously converted an Edison Standard to coin-operation using very direct and substantial methods of mechanical wizardry. This machine was built to play records for a lifetime. What you see here is an all original machine, virgin. Stay tuned for the next few weeks and watch it change from a basement find, into a "Manhattan" celebrity.

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The cabinet, less its cast iron legs. The original bolts were lost in time, but I was able to locate unplated steel carriage bolts from a supply company called Blacksmith Bolt, which will be ideal replacements. The finish is mostly original, with a few touch-ups in the shellac evident. The sign, just staring at it, makes me wish I was born in 1885, so I could experience this machine first hand in its original environment.

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The top works. The coin flies down the chute, over a magnet (missing) to catch steel slugs, and into a catcher which drops the coin below the level of the bedplate to counterbalance a release lever which starts the governor spinning on the motor. A very well thought out mechanism. The brass front plate acts as a lift for the carriage arm (this model has PAT APL'D FOR stamped on it), and a spring loaded spool on the back of the mechanism returns the carriage to the start position. A beautiful ballet of movement. There are many small changes made to the original Standard mechanism, including the mandrel, which seems to have what looks like gutta percha sleeve on it....possible intended to keep the record from sliding off the mandrel during temperature changes? Even the reproducer has been modified!

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Why stop by adding a heavier weight? They added a coil spring as well! The stylus pressure is incredible. I can't see this playing a record more than 300 times before the record wears out! But, we will put the machine through its paces when it is completed.

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Under the works, the coin tin, the original crank (which needs a handle....the original handle shrunk and split into 4 pieces, in part to rust expansion on the stem). Notice that the coin tin has accommodation for a padlock.

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The main mechanism under the bedplate. I am impressed by how well thought out this all is. It was made for heavy duty service. Comparing this to a Graphophone coin-op which is dependent on several laws of physics playing in harmonic balance to function reliably, this machine is built to accept coins and play cylinders on shaky uneven floors, or even on a steamship heading to Yonkers.....in rough tide.

Check back often for updates!
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 Post subject: Re: Follow the restoration of an Edison "MANHATTAN" coin op
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Looking forward to what comes next.

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2. Shortage of finance, however dire, will never prevent the acquisition of a desired object, however improbable its cost.


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 Post subject: Re: Follow the restoration of an Edison "MANHATTAN" coin op
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My favorite coin-op. I'm very much looking forward to watching this rise from the ashes and regain its full glory!


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As stated previously, the original crank handle broke into many pieces because of wood shrinkage and the expanding rust from the mounting stem. I ground back the peen, pressed out the stem, and replaced both the stem and crank handle.

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 Post subject: Re: Follow the restoration of an Edison "MANHATTAN" coin op
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Lovely machine,this is quite exciting! :D


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 Post subject: Re: Follow the restoration of an Edison "MANHATTAN" coin op
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Amazing find! I can't wait to see more and follow the restoration process.
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 Post subject: Re: Follow the restoration of an Edison "MANHATTAN" coin op
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These postings which let us watch you raise the dead are fascinating. More!

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 Post subject: Re: Follow the restoration of an Edison "MANHATTAN" coin op
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What a cool project! Thanks for sharing with us, Wyatt!

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 Post subject: Re: Follow the restoration of an Edison "MANHATTAN" coin op
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Atop its slender cast iron legs, this machine could certainly make the wait at the ferry terminal a little less boring and mediocre. 1c per play, for a full two minutes of musical escape. The Manhattan Phonograph Co ingeniously converted an Edison Standard to coin-operation using very direct and substantial methods of mechanical wizardry. This machine was built to play records for a lifetime. What you see here is an all original machine, virgin. Stay tuned for the next few weeks and watch it change from a basement find, into a "Manhattan" celebrity.

Image

The cabinet, less its cast iron legs. The original bolts were lost in time, but I was able to locate unplated steel carriage bolts from a supply company called Blacksmith Bolt, which will be ideal replacements. The finish is mostly original, with a few touch-ups in the shellac evident. The sign, just staring at it, makes me wish I was born in 1885, so I could experience this machine first hand in its original environment.

Image
The top works. The coin flies down the chute, over a magnet (missing) to catch steel slugs, and into a catcher which drops the coin below the level of the bedplate to counterbalance a release lever which starts the governor spinning on the motor. A very well thought out mechanism. The brass front plate acts as a lift for the carriage arm (this model has PAT APL'D FOR stamped on it), and a spring loaded spool on the back of the mechanism returns the carriage to the start position. A beautiful ballet of movement. There are many small changes made to the original Standard mechanism, including the mandrel, which seems to have what looks like gutta percha sleeve on it....possible intended to keep the record from sliding off the mandrel during temperature changes? Even the reproducer has been modified!

Image

Why stop by adding a heavier weight? They added a coil spring as well! The stylus pressure is incredible. I can't see this playing a record more than 300 times before the record wears out! But, we will put the machine through its paces when it is completed.

Image

Under the works, the coin tin, the original crank (which needs a handle....the original handle shrunk and split into 4 pieces, in part to rust expansion on the stem). Notice that the coin tin has accommodation for a padlock.

Image

The main mechanism under the bedplate. I am impressed by how well thought out this all is. It was made for heavy duty service. Comparing this to a Graphophone coin-op which is dependent on several laws of physics playing in harmonic balance to function reliably, this machine is built to accept coins and play cylinders on shaky uneven floors, or even on a steamship heading to Yonkers.....in rough tide.

Check back often for updates!


This is exactly the type of thing I love to see! Looking forward to seeing the transformation from a duckling to a swan! :rose:


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 Post subject: Re: Follow the restoration of an Edison "MANHATTAN" coin op
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Too bad I couldn't follow it to my house! Very cool.


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