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Re: C250/C19 Database project

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marcapra wrote:1. Model Designation (C-250 or C-19): C-250

2. Serial Number:SM 58189

3. Bedplate Pinstriping: No

4. "Official Laboratory" Medallion: Round/Pentagonal/None: Round

5. Exact Wording of the Medallion: "The Model 250 Diamond Disc Phonograph is The Official Laboratory Model"

6. Record Storage: Drawers or Shelves? Drawers

7. Cabinet Wood Type: Mahogany or Oak? mahogany

8. Duncan Stop?: Yes

9. Dealer Tag: Name/Address, Location On Machine: None

10. Original Dated Sales Receipt/Shipping Documentation, etc. (Dates are particularly noteworthy): None

11. Grille cloth: none
Thank you, marcapra, would you please check and see if the medallion has TAE's signature (Thos. A. Edison) present?

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pughphonos wrote:Hi Fran,


5. Exact Wording of the Medallion: "The Model 250 Diamond Disc Phonograph is The Official Laboratory Model"
Ralph, could you please re-check your medallion and see if TAE's signature is present?

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HisMastersVoice wrote:1. Model Designation (C-250 or C-19): C-19

2. Serial Number: SM-150310

3. Bedplate Pinstriping: N

4. "Official Laboratory" Medallion: Round

5. Exact Wording of the Medallion: Diamond Disc Official Laboratory Model

6. Record Storage: Shelves

7. Cabinet Wood Type: Mahogany

8. Duncan Stop?: N

9. Dealer Tag: None

10. Original Dated Sales Receipt/Shipping Documentation, etc. (Dates are particularly noteworthy): None

11. Grille cloth: Brown Silk (likely not original, older replacement)
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Cody K wrote: 5. Medallion Wording: "Official Laboratory Model Thos. A. Edison"
Hi Cody K, could you check and see if the words "Diamond Disc" precede the above text you supplied me with?
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Re: C250/C19 Database project

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Hi again, folks!

I want to thank everyone for helping out and thought I should repost the first page for newcomers to acquaint themselves with this project.

Please be as PRECISE and SPECIFIC as possible. I'm seeing too many variations in the wording of the Medallion, in particular.

Thanks again,

Fran
fran604g wrote:Hi folks,

I need your help in compiling a spreadsheet as I explained in an earlier post here:

http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... 038#p98038

It is my intention to compile as much data as I can find to establish, exactly or as closely as I can, when significant production changes were made to the C250 and C19 Diamond Disc Phonographs over their lifetimes. Once compiled, I feel that I should be able to demonstrate a chronological history of these changes and, hopefully, identify precisely when these changes were implemented by Thomas A. Edison Inc., from a serialization standpoint and when.

This is a large undertaking and, admittedly, I am a bit daunted, but I shall do my best.

The following are particular features and characteristics that I am looking for:

1. Model Designation: (C-250 or C-19)

2. Serial Number:

3. Bedplate Pinstriping: Y/N

4. "Official Laboratory" Medallion: Round/Pentagonal/None

5. Exact Wording of the Medallion: Please be precise (Abbreviated signature, for example)

6. Record Storage: Drawers or Shelves?

7. Cabinet Wood Type: Mahogany or Oak?

8. Duncan Stop?: Y/N

9. Dealer Tag: Name/Address, Location On Machine 

10. Original Dated Sales Receipt/Shipping Documentation, etc. (Dates are particularly noteworthy):

11. Grille cloth? Color?

Your participation and comments are truly appreciated, thank you,

Fran
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Oops, sorry Fran, "Diamond Disc" is indeed on the medallion. That's what I get posting too early on a Sunday morning -- sorry.

By the way, 52089 and De Soto Frank both have noted that their record shelves each are labelled 1-36, while mine are labelled 1-36 and 37-72. I don't know if this is a very important distinction, but thought I'd point it out in case you felt it was worth adding to the survey.

Thanks for taking on this database project! I imagine it could become quite a lot of work, but I'm sure it will be useful to many collectors.

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Cody K wrote:Oops, sorry Fran, "Diamond Disc" is indeed on the medallion. That's what I get posting too early on a Sunday morning -- sorry.

By the way, 52089 and De Soto Frank both have noted that their record shelves each are labelled 1-36, while mine are labelled 1-36 and 37-72. I don't know if this is a very important distinction, but thought I'd point it out in case you felt it was worth adding to the survey.

Thanks for taking on this database project! I imagine it could become quite a lot of work, but I'm sure it will be useful to many collectors.
Thanks, Cody! I noted your storage labels, they are the first that have been observed so far.

At only 25 "New Edisons" so far, I hope many more will contribute.

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1. Model Designation: ( C-19)

2. Serial Number: 87112

3. Bedplate Pinstriping: N

4. "Official Laboratory" Medallion: Round

5. Exact Wording of the Medallion: Please be precise (Diamond Disc, Offical Labroratory Model, Thos. A. Edison)

6. Record Storage: Drawers or Shelves? (Two shelves with 36 sleeves each)

7. Cabinet Wood Type: Mahogany or Oak? (OAK)

8. Duncan Stop?: N

9. Dealer Tag: Name/Address, Location On Machine none

10. Original Dated Sales Receipt/Shipping Documentation, etc.: (none:

11. Grille cloth? Color? Original, Olive Green

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Re: C250/C19 Database project

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I only have the packing slip for this one, no machine :(

1. Model Designation: (C-19)

2. Serial Number: 89808

3. Bedplate Pinstriping: don't know

4. "Official Laboratory" Medallion: dont know

5. Exact Wording of the Medallion: Please be precise don't know

6. Record Storage: Drawers or Shelves don't know

7. Cabinet Wood Type: Mahogany or Oak? Fumed oak acc. to packing slip

8. Duncan Stop?: Y/N don't know

9. Dealer Tag: Name/Address, Location On Machine don't know

10. Original Dated Sales Receipt/Shipping Documentation, etc.: (Dates are particularly noteworthy): Packing slip says K-5-O where the date should be written. (picture of it is available on my website)

11. Grille cloth? Color? don't know

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