A and B 250 Database Project

Discussions on Talking Machines & Accessories
Post Reply
User avatar
fran604g
Victor VI
Posts: 3988
Joined: Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:22 pm
Personal Text: I'm Feeling Cranky
Location: Hemlock, NY

Re: A and B 250 Database Project

Post by fran604g »

Thank you Jason, for your contribution. I hope you're enjoying your A 250.

As for the my original images, it grieves me that they have presumably been lost on the forum. Here's some images of the braking mechanisms in question.

Best regards,
Fran
Type 1 and 2 Start-Stop Levers.jpg
TYPE 3 START-STOP LEVER ARRANGEMENT600x480.JPG
TYPE 3 START-STOP LEVER ARRANGEMENT600x480.JPG (256.68 KiB) Viewed 264 times
Francis; "i" for him, "e" for her
"Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while" - the unappreciative supervisor.

User avatar
fran604g
Victor VI
Posts: 3988
Joined: Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:22 pm
Personal Text: I'm Feeling Cranky
Location: Hemlock, NY

Re: A and B 250 Database Project

Post by fran604g »

JD250 wrote: Sun Jun 05, 2022 8:33 pm Hello Fran, I had emailed you a few weeks ago about when my A-250 was built and 1913 is the most likely year based on the information you were able to give me. You asked if I would fill out this form but unfortunately my account hadn’t been activated yet, but luckily it was a few weeks ago I just haven’t gotten around to filling it out, but finally got the time. Here are my answers.

All the best,

Jason

1) Model designation on the data plate? "A250" or "B250".
A-250

2) What is the serial number on the dataplate?
SM-3679

3) What is the number stamped into the top of the motor-plate beneath the turntable? Example: 6969-A1 (Location)
the number stamped is 3679-A1

4 While you have the turntable removed, how many oil "ports" are present on the top of the motor-plate?
There are 2 oil ports

5) Looking at the underside of the motor-plate (if you are able to) how many oil "tubes" are present?
There are 4 on the base plate and 2 screwed to the motor itself

6) What is the "Date" on the paper label stuck to the inside of the cabinet rear inspection door?
The date is 8-10-13

7) What is the stamped number on the "1st Horn Joint" located directly below the motor mechanism?
The serial number is 3230

8) What is the stamped number on the "2nd Horn Joint" just before the horn flairs out? (This one may be difficult to locate without disassembly, so please don't go out of your way for this one).
Not sure

9) Is there a number conspicuously stamped into the cabinet on the bottom of the horn compartment? If there is what is the number, and is it in the "Front" or "Rear" of the horn compartment?
There are 2. 3679 in the back right which is covered when the back compartment door is shut, and 145 on the right back of the cabinet. Also there’s a 2 stamped on the inside of the right hand side of the cabinet

10) What color is the motor-plate finish? "Reddish-Maroon", "Chocolate-Brown" or "Black". (Shown in pictures below)
The motor plate finish is Black

10a) Is there a "Tone control or Mute Ball" present, "Yes or No": if yes, then which type? "Reproducer with Felt Damper", "Pull Knob and Cable", "Pivoting Lever and Cable", or "Slider Control and Cable"
There are none.

11) What color is the pin striping on the perimeter of the motor-plate? "Gold" or "Gold and Blue"
The pin striping is Gold

11a) Is there decorative pin striping applied to the corners of the motor-plate? "Yes" or "No".
Yes

12) Is the operating lever (lowers the reproducer for play) mounted to the "Cabinet" or is it mounted through the "Motor-plate" (Shown in pictures below)
the operating lever is Mounted to the cabinet

13) Which type of start/stop lever configuration does your unit have? "Type 1", "Type 2", or "Type 3"? (Shown in pictures below)
Pictures you posted don’t work anymore so I’ll describe it. It’s on a hinge and the bottom tapers and it flares out at the tip.

14) What is the cabinet wood type? "Mahogany", or "Oak".
The cabinet is Mahogany

15) Are there "Tone Slots" cut into in the sides of the cabinet? "Yes" or "No".
Yes

16) Is the horn painted in "Mahogany Wood Grain", "Oak Wood Grain", or "Black"?
The paint unfortunately was stripped off by a past owner who “serviced” it, but what’s left appears to be mahogany

17) What type of record storage system does yours have; "17-A", "17-B", "17-C", "17-D", "17-E, 17-F"? (See images below)
Pictures don’t work so I’ll describe. the top drawer is about 10’’ tall and has 33 dividers the last two on mine are missing. The bottom drawer is about 12’’ with 33 dividers but they are con-caved at the top.

18) Is there an "Official Laboratory Medallion" mounted to the turntable trim piece? If there is, please describe it in detail.
No Medallion present

19) Is there "grille cloth" present? If there is; what color is it, and please provide a brief description of the material.
Yes, I’m not sure if it’s original though. It is gold with a woven design. The material is soft and it’s a similar cloth to that of my Edisonic’s grille cloth but the Edisonic’s is a bit thinner.

20) Are there any dealer tag(s) or decal(s) present? If "Yes", then please submit name, address, etc. and the location it is found on the cabinet.
There are none

21) What is the "Cabinet Factory No." (if any)? This can usually be found on a sticker inside of the horn compartment of the cabinet. Please provide the "Form No." and any other notable numbers if present.
There is no sticker but there is the number 2 stamped on the right inside of the cabinet. Also the number 145 stamped on the back left corner of the cabinet.

22) Does your cabinet have a conspicuous "Lip" around the inside top perimeter of your turntable compartment? "Lip" or "No Lip".
Lip

23) How tall is your Phonograph, measuring from the bottom of the right front foot up along the cabinet corner frame piece (do not include the caster if one is present, please) turntable compartment corner? (As shown "Image 1"and "Image 2" below)
About 44 ½ inches

24) Are there any sales receipts, shipping documentation, etc., original to the phonograph? Dated and serialized materials are particularly noteworthy.
None unfortunately
Also, here are my images once again of the drawers:
17-A removable dividers.jpg
17-B A250 Drawer with trim cap.jpg
17-B A250 Drawer with trim cap.jpg (155.34 KiB) Viewed 261 times
17-C Ind slots 4 Non-removable dividers.jpg
17-C Ind slots 4 Non-removable dividers.jpg (129.8 KiB) Viewed 261 times
17-D 4 removable dividers 5-compartments.JPG
17-E Paper non-removable dividers.JPG
17-F Concave dividers.jpg
Francis; "i" for him, "e" for her
"Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while" - the unappreciative supervisor.

Post Reply