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 Post subject: Re: victrola VV-230 (art model with bowed sides) at auction...
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:32 pm 
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JohnM wrote:
Really? OK!

Then is, say, a VV-130 considered an art model?

John M

I know, when I think of art model I usually just think of those period models, but I believe the broad category of art model included the period models as well as the 130, 230, 330, XVII and XVIII. again, I could be wrong. I'm going to have to find the passage in the book that I'm thinking of.


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 Post subject: Re: victrola VV-230 (art model with bowed sides) at auction...
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:34 pm 
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SonnyPhono wrote:
Either way, what was the winning bid?

oh, right... well I was hoping to get at least a few replies in terms of what people might have paid for it. no matter.

it sold for about 650 (when you factor in the hammer price as well as the auction house commission and sales tax).


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 Post subject: Re: victrola VV-230 (art model with bowed sides) at auction...
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:25 pm 
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Wow! Seems odd to have a lowboy go for that amount at an auction. If he has that kind of money to spend on a VV-230 that needs some work, tell him there is a great deal going on Ebay right now. A fresh needle for only one dollar. :D


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 Post subject: Re: victrola VV-230 (art model with bowed sides) at auction...
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:48 pm 
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Brad wrote:
Brian,

Hmm, hard to say what it did go for. I don't much care for low-boys, so I wouldn't pay much (sub $50 regardless of model), however, it appears that machines fetch a pretty high price in your neck of the woods. e.g. http://southjersey.craigslist.org/clt/1313825041.html

holy crap... I check craigslist pretty regularly even though I haven't been in much of a buying mode for quite some time now... and I hadn't noticed that one... honestly though, $6500 for a standard upright VV-X in mahogany? I can't say that typifies my area... if anything, I'd maybe expect more of such price inflation from your northern end of the state where most everything is overblown... i.e. "real" housewives of NJ... ha...

hope all is well brad.

brian

Sorry to bump this thread, but this one has them all beat. Makes me sorry I gave my XIV to my brother inlaw as a house warming gift:

http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/msg/1340637538.html
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 Post subject: Re: victrola VV-230 (art model with bowed sides) at auction...
PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:59 am 
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Hmph...only $18K?

I've got a really nice clean mahogany XIV complete with a full set of albums all cleaned and collection ready I'd let go for a little less than that! ;)

Sean


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 Post subject: Re: victrola VV-230 (art model with bowed sides) at auction...
PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:50 pm 
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Folks,

According the Baumbach's LFTD (fourth edition) the VV-230 was the most expensive standard machine VTMCo offered in '22.

IIRC Victor reserved the term "art" for their Vernis-Martin cases and other custom Victrolas. The company also offered Period Models from 1917 to 1925. Brian what book were you thinking of?

The VV-230 is a lovely machine, but as a rule the consoles don't seem as popular today as the uprights generally. They do take up so much floor space! ;)

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John

Listening to the Victrola fifteen minutes a day will alter and brighten your whole life.
Use each needle only ONCE!



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 Post subject: Re: victrola VV-230 (art model with bowed sides) at auction...
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Ah but sometimes I think a console is worth a little extra space. I showed this picture a while back but thought it was applicable here so... one more time...

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 Post subject: Re: victrola VV-230 (art model with bowed sides) at auction...
PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:38 pm 
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Neophone wrote:
The VV-230 is a lovely machine, but as a rule the consoles don't seem as popular today as the uprights generally. They do take up so much floor space! ;)


I think that when people buy a Victrola these days they want it to LOOK like a Victrola, not like a tasteful cabinet that no one would suspect.


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 Post subject: Re: victrola VV-230 (art model with bowed sides) at auction...
PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:54 pm 
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schweg wrote:
Ah but sometimes I think a console is worth a little extra space. I showed this picture a while back but thought it was applicable here so... one more time...

Image

Image


Steve



Steve,

Wonderful photo-the only problem I have is once I start putting things on top of a machine I'm less likely to play it. Here's my Granada-I'm not going to show you a photo of my VV-210! :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:


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John


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Listening to the Victrola fifteen minutes a day will alter and brighten your whole life.
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 Post subject: Re: victrola VV-230 (art model with bowed sides) at auction...
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Ha! You are right on that one John. Many of the floor models I own serve mainly as Victables for another phonograph on top.... But I've got cra... uh I mean valuable collectables everywhere so there's no alternative, except to get rid of some of my machines.... Did I just say that??


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