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 Post subject: Brunswick Phonograph Database Project
PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:08 pm 
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Victor Jr
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Location: Somerset, NJ
I have started a project to compile data on early Brunswick phonographs, in an effort to try to determine a pattern that can be used to date our various machines based on serial number and other distinctive features. So far I have about 40 machines logged, mostly from the "Featured Phonographs" section of this board, as well as machines on eBay and other internet sites. My interest is mostly in the pre-electric/wind-up machines, but would be willing to gather information for all machines.

As many Brunswick owners are aware, the official production records for our machines were reportedly destroyed as the division was sold off to various companies.

If you would like to participate, please send me the following information about your Brunswick Phonograph by direct message on this board:

Official Model/Style Code (117, Cortez, etc.)
Type of phonograph (Console/credenza, table-top, portable, upright "Floor Model")
Serial Number
Lot number (4 digit, usually stamped into the cabinet by the horn)
Finish (Golden Oak, Mahogany, etc.)
Type of Reproducer (Single head Ultona, Double head Ultona, etc.)
Horn shape (Oval/Rectangular)
Motorboard material and features (wood, metal, pinstripes)
Motor type (Type B, Type 3, number of springs, etc.)
Finish/material of hardware (gold plated, nickel plated, pot metal, brass)
Type and color of medallion (muse with lyre, Miss Brunswick, Brunswick Banner, nails or no nails)
Any known documented date (packing slip, etc.)


If you only know some of the information, that is fine. I will work with it the best I can. I will probably collect, but not publish owner information to respect privacy. Any other comments about your machine, including unique features, is also welcome.

Thanks.
-Bil G
Brunswick Model 120, Mahogany, 2-sided Ultona Reproducer, c.1919
Victor Victrola VV-IV (Type E) in Golden Oak, Exhibition and HMV No. 4 Sound Box, c.1916


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 Post subject: Re: Please submit your Brunswick phonograph data
PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:07 pm 
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Hello Bill, If you go to search and type in Brunswick upright---then type in Emerson as author, you'll see my machine--- in original condition very gaudy design. Sorry the only info. I can supply is---upright, mahogany, double head Ultona, square horn, wood motor board, gold finish, and the swivel lamp in the record storage compartment with the on/off push button by the turn table.


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 Post subject: Re: Please submit your Brunswick phonograph data
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:26 am 
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Hi Bil, I believe you have mine as they are listed in the featured phonograph section. If you need anything further, I'd be glad to help. Thanks for taking on this project and I look forward to hearing what you discover.


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 Post subject: Re: Please submit your Brunswick phonograph data
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:39 am 
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Thanks to the both of you!
Brunswick Model 120, Mahogany, 2-sided Ultona Reproducer, c.1919
Victor Victrola VV-IV (Type E) in Golden Oak, Exhibition and HMV No. 4 Sound Box, c.1916


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 Post subject: Re: Attn Brunswick Phonograph owners -Please submit machine
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:07 pm 
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I'll be getting an oak Brunswick Model 117 a week from Thursday.I'll give you the data on mine.edisonplayer


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 Post subject: Re: Brunswick Phonograph Database Project
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:21 am 
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Here's the data on my Brunswick:Model 117.Golden oak.Double sided Ultona.Upright style oak wood motorboard,Horn;oval Serial number;SN;188126.Last patent date;June 4,1918.edisonplayer


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 Post subject: Re: Brunswick Phonograph Database Project
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:54 pm 
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Victor Jr
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edisonplayer wrote:
Here's the data on my Brunswick:Model 117.Golden oak.Double sided Ultona.Upright style oak wood motorboard,Horn;oval Serial number;SN;188126.Last patent date;June 4,1918.edisonplayer

Thanks!

Judging from your serial number, I'm assuming that the medallion is the one with the muse and harp/lyre, and you can see the nails fastening it?

-B
Brunswick Model 120, Mahogany, 2-sided Ultona Reproducer, c.1919
Victor Victrola VV-IV (Type E) in Golden Oak, Exhibition and HMV No. 4 Sound Box, c.1916


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 Post subject: Re: Brunswick Phonograph Database Project
PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:00 pm 
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There are two nails holding the medallion.It's the harp and lyre version,with a woman playing the lyre.edisonplayer


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 Post subject: Re: Brunswick Phonograph Database Project
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:42 pm 
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Victor Jr
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edisonplayer wrote:
There are two nails holding the medallion.It's the harp and lyre version,with a woman playing the lyre.edisonplayer


Thanks. Patterns of predictability are indeed emerging.

Based on your serial number, I'm guessing that the machine was built early 1920.

-B
Brunswick Model 120, Mahogany, 2-sided Ultona Reproducer, c.1919
Victor Victrola VV-IV (Type E) in Golden Oak, Exhibition and HMV No. 4 Sound Box, c.1916


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 Post subject: Re: Brunswick Phonograph Database Project
PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:21 am 
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Victor O
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Location: Maryland USA
Two Brunswick models here.

Brunswick Model RO 293016 console, Walnut finish, oval horn, Brunswick type "E" (2 spring) motor, last patent date on motorboard December 12, 1922. one sided Ultona reproducer.

Brunswick Model 110 430749 upright, golden oak finish, oval horn, Brunswick No. 3 (2 spring) motor, no patent date label on motorboard. one sided Ultona reproducer.

If you will look at the medallions, one is hard to see but I believe to be the lyre version, the other must be the girl looking down into the phonograph, I assume that's what you're calling the Brunswick girl? Not sure if I'm seeing nails on either of these I think there are bumps on both that would be nails.

Would love to have an idea of the dates on these two machines, if this is enough information.

Thanks!


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