I wouldnt destroy a C. There are plenty of orphan tail weights on ebay. The Standard reproducer are just too expensive for me.phonogfp wrote:It's not just the weight. The C's stylus has an elliptical shape rather than the ball stylus of an Automatic, B, or Graphophone. That elliptical shape concentrates the weight in a narrow arc across the bottom of the groove. It's better to use a reproducer with a ball shaped stylus instead of destroying a Model C.hearsedriver wrote:Since we are on the subject, can a C reproducer be modified to play brown wax, such as cutting off the tail weight?
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The Standard Speaker is indeed a pricey item, but you wouldn't want to play brown wax with that because of its limited lateral compliance. The Automatic was introduced early on as a better playing alternative to the Standard, but they too command healthy dollars these days. However, an outstanding reproduction Automatic is currently offered by JAS Antiques:hearsedriver wrote:
I wouldnt destroy a C. There are plenty of orphan tail weights on ebay. The Standard reproducer are just too expensive for me.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321393269349?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT
The best bang for your brown-wax buck on an Edison machine would be a Model B Reproducer. These are commonly found, use a ball stylus, and should cost no more than a Model C.
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Thanks George. I didnt know about the Model B !phonogfp wrote:The Standard Speaker is indeed a pricey item, but you wouldn't want to play brown wax with that because of its limited lateral compliance. The Automatic was introduced early on as a better playing alternative to the Standard, but they too command healthy dollars these days. However, an outstanding reproduction Automatic is currently offered by JAS Antiques:hearsedriver wrote:
I wouldnt destroy a C. There are plenty of orphan tail weights on ebay. The Standard reproducer are just too expensive for me.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321393269349?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT
The best bang for your brown-wax buck on an Edison machine would be a Model B Reproducer. These are commonly found, use a ball stylus, and should cost no more than a Model C.
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The Model B was standard equipment on Gems for several years, as well as several Edison coin-ops. As you can see, it used the same tube plate as the Model C, but with a round, Automatic-style weight. (The Model B was an improved form of Automatic.) There are a variety of weights found on Model Bs. Steve Medved wrote about the Model B in an issue of The Antique Phonograph a couple of years ago and shows many of the weight variations.
This particular Model B had an adjusting lever which I removed and placed inside the machine it's currently on.
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This particular Model B had an adjusting lever which I removed and placed inside the machine it's currently on.
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Interesting George. I'll have to search for one. I was wondering why my brown cylinder home recordings have degraded so quickly. Ive been using a C to play them ;(
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Oh no... Sorry to hear that. The Antique Phonograph Society has an article posted in an attempt to help prevent that kind of damage from happening. Although a Model B isn't shown in the illustrations, it's mentioned in a few captions:hearsedriver wrote: I was wondering why my brown cylinder home recordings have degraded so quickly. Ive been using a C to play them ;(
https://www.antiquephono.org/basic-anti ... onal-tips/
Meanwhile, if you play your brown wax on your Eagle or your Q, it should diminish the wear. Even better: record your brown wax digitally or on tape for casual listening and save the original records for special occasions.
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This forum has a wealth of information. Just in this topic alone, irreversible damage to irreplaceable brown wax cylinders has been avoided. Maybe a book of does and don'ts for the antique phonograph enthusiast would be a good venture, if only we knew someone who has a nack for writing and lots of knowledge......
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Is it possible to just attach one of the JAS reproduction automatic reproducer to a 1904 vintage Standard in place of the existing model C, so I can play my one brown wax cylinder?
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Columbia78 wrote:Is it possible to just attach one of the JAS reproduction automatic reproducers to a 1904 vintage Standard in place of the existing model C, so I can play my one brown wax cylinder?
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Yes, absolutely.Columbia78 wrote:Is it possible to just attach one of the JAS reproduction automatic reproducer to a 1904 vintage Standard in place of the existing model C, so I can play my one brown wax cylinder?
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