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 Post subject: Victor record boxes
PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:16 pm 
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I just picked-up Victor record boxes out of a XVI (the machine was sold separate) and from the ad it looked like some were lettered. When I got them home it appears the letters were purchased and applied from a hobby store---they can be peeled off. The boxes, 6-10" and 4-12" have a 1908 patent date and each have 5-10 records in them. I believe the 1st style VTLA used plain boxes and the machines after that had factory lettered boxes. Any thoughts---I figured that maybe the dealer that sold the machine wanted to get rid of old stock. THANKS


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 Post subject: Re: Victor record boxes
PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:23 pm 
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Original VTLA record boxes have gold letters on them that might appear to have just been stuck on, because they were. They should have a metal ring pull on the spine and are wooden boxes with a latch. If that is what you have don't peel the letters off. The 1908 boxes are for early VTLAs, Pooleys and the Victrola XX. Please post a picture of your boxes to determine what they actually are...
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 Post subject: Re: Victor record boxes
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:34 pm 
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I hope this helps. Here are some pics from my post-VTLA machine, serial No. 19398 which places its date at 1910

I have no reason to believe that these are not the original boxes. As Victor kept using parts left over from older models, it's no surprise to find a bullet brake on this machine.


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 Post subject: Re: Victor record boxes
PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:25 pm 
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Are all Victor 10" & 12" record boxes the same or was there a variation?


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 Post subject: Re: Victor record boxes
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:46 pm 
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emerson wrote:
Are all Victor 10" & 12" record boxes the same or was there a variation?


I can only say that I have never seen another type of box in an L-Door XVI. There were different boxes in later models, however this the only box type of this era I have seen.


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