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 Post subject: Brunswick 117 brake problem
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:02 pm 
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Sometimes when I'm playing my oak Brunswick 117 the brake shuts off.What could be the problem?edisonplayer


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 Post subject: Re: Brunswick 117 brake problem in Machines
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:43 pm 
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edisonplayer wrote:
Sometimes when I'm playing my oak Brunswick 117 the brake shuts off.What could be the problem?edisonplayer


Do you mean the turntable stops? Do you have an automatic stop on the machine (extra lever near the base of the tonearm, or above the brake lever? Is it properly set for each record?
Brunswick Model 120, Mahogany, 2-sided Ultona Reproducer, c.1919
Victor Victrola VV-IV (Type E) in Golden Oak, Exhibition and HMV No. 4 Sound Box, c.1916


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 Post subject: Re: Brunswick 117 brake problem in Machines
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:12 am 
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Yes,it's properly set for each record.But sometimes the brake shuts off prematurely.edisonplayer


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 Post subject: Re: Brunswick 117 brake problem in Machines
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:09 am 
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edisonplayer wrote:
Yes,it's properly set for each record.But sometimes the brake shuts off prematurely.edisonplayer


Check the spring tension on the auto stop. Touch the bar lightly and see how sensitive it is. Also check the tension on the brake itself.
Brunswick Model 120, Mahogany, 2-sided Ultona Reproducer, c.1919
Victor Victrola VV-IV (Type E) in Golden Oak, Exhibition and HMV No. 4 Sound Box, c.1916


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 Post subject: Re: Brunswick 117 brake problem in Machines
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:23 pm 
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Does the run/stop lever flip to the stop position when this occurs? The brake mechanism on these motors is different from the usual turntable brake. The run/stop lever actuates a lever that presses a brake pad onto the governor to stop. If that lever is not adjusted correctly, that brake pad can drop onto the governor and stop the motor.

If the run/stop lever flips to the off position when this happens, then you likely need a new spring on the lever, as mentioned above.

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Cliff's Vintage Music Shoppe, Castle Rock, WA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIz_IpaVrW8


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 Post subject: Re: Brunswick 117 brake problem in Machines
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:49 pm 
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Here is a video of the brake mechanism from YouTube:

https://youtu.be/kolJg_l_Ors

Might help you to troubleshoot the problem.

Cliff
Cliff's Vintage Music Shoppe, Castle Rock, WA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIz_IpaVrW8


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 Post subject: Re: Brunswick 117 brake problem in Machines
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:13 am 
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Thanks for your help.I didn't know about the device under the motor.Different than say,a Victrola.Could you message me about this?Thanks.edisonplayer


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