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 Post subject: VV 4-3 Tone Arm Paint Color Assistance
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:09 pm 
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Hey all, does anyone know the exact paint type and color number I should use to airbrush a tone arm that was originally gold but has faded badly. It is for my VV 4-3 Orthophonic. See photos of current condition. Also any tips appreciated (prep, etc).

I had my eye on this but want to be 100% sure and what better place to ask than my fellow enthusiasts :)
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Gold-Leaf-Finish/38471169

Thanks for any help.


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 Post subject: Re: VV 4-3 Tone Arm Paint Color Assistance
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:31 pm 
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All I can say is that no 4-3 was produced with gold plated hardware. I've never seen a 4-3 without nickle plated or antique bronze hardware.
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 Post subject: Re: VV 4-3 Tone Arm Paint Color Assistance
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:33 pm 
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It is more likely a nickel finish on the tone arm, at least that is what "Look For The Dog" describes the finish as, "and nickel plated hardware (an antique bronze finish was used at the end of the production run).  It appears the rest of the hardware, such as the needle holder, needle cup, lid supports and lid hinge are all nickel. Therefore, maybe you are wanting to make a custom variation on yours? If you are after an antique bronze finish, then that would be another process altogether involving chemicals. Cheers, Russie


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 Post subject: Re: VV 4-3 Tone Arm Paint Color Assistance
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm 
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thanks guys. I want to keep original as possible. Will probably just clean and polish the tone arm. The reproducer I am waiting for is a bit worn but is gold in color. Cant have it all I guess lol.


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 Post subject: Re: VV 4-3 Tone Arm Paint Color Assistance
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:48 pm 
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That orthophonic reproducer is from a later portable, still pot metal, but usually stable. It is not 100% "correct" on a VV-4-3, but works just fine, since most of the originals seem to have crumbled by now. I agree with the others, a VV-4-3 should have a nickel plated tonearm - except for very late models.

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 Post subject: Re: VV 4-3 Tone Arm Paint Color Assistance
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:29 pm 
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pellicano1 wrote:
thanks guys. I want to keep original as possible. Will probably just clean and polish the tone arm. The reproducer I am waiting for is a bit worn but is gold in color. Cant have it all I guess lol.


If you want that arm re- nickled, I can help you, and I also have a nickle HMV No. 5 A reproducer that's in great shape available if you want something closer to correct.


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 Post subject: Re: VV 4-3 Tone Arm Paint Color Assistance
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:30 pm 
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alang wrote:
That orthophonic reproducer is from a later portable, still pot metal, but usually stable. It is not 100% "correct" on a VV-4-3, but works just fine, since most of the originals seem to have crumbled by now. I agree with the others, a VV-4-3 should have a nickel plated tonearm - except for very late models.

Andreas

Yeah they were made for portables. I saw a video with this reproducer playing on a vv 4-7 and it sounded amazing! I cant wait!


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 Post subject: Re: VV 4-3 Tone Arm Paint Color Assistance
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:31 pm 
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pellicano1 wrote:
alang wrote:
That orthophonic reproducer is from a later portable, still pot metal, but usually stable. It is not 100% "correct" on a VV-4-3, but works just fine, since most of the originals seem to have crumbled by now. I agree with the others, a VV-4-3 should have a nickel plated tonearm - except for very late models.

Andreas

Yeah they were made for portables. I saw a video with this reproducer playing on a vv 4-7 and it sounded amazing! I cant wait!


They do sound very nice. These were always my reproducer of choice for gold Ortho tone arms.


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 Post subject: Re: VV 4-3 Tone Arm Paint Color Assistance
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gramophone-georg wrote:
pellicano1 wrote:
alang wrote:
That orthophonic reproducer is from a later portable, still pot metal, but usually stable. It is not 100% "correct" on a VV-4-3, but works just fine, since most of the originals seem to have crumbled by now. I agree with the others, a VV-4-3 should have a nickel plated tonearm - except for very late models.

Andreas

Yeah they were made for portables. I saw a video with this reproducer playing on a vv 4-7 and it sounded amazing! I cant wait!


They do sound very nice. These were always my reproducer of choice for gold Ortho tone arms.


Now you see my dilemna lol. If im really not liking what are the chances of training someone for a very good condition pot metal Victor Ortho on here?


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 Post subject: Re: VV 4-3 Tone Arm Paint Color Assistance
PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:50 pm 
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Now you see my dilemna lol. If im really not liking what are the chances of trading someone for a very good condition pot metal Victor Ortho on here?[/quote]


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