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 Post subject: Re: Last chance for ICS Standard model C #820130 UPDATE
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:27 pm 
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I purchased most of this standard ICS model C on E Bay as I did not want it parted out. I have finally got it together and running. It needed some work, touch up paint, and a new spring. It runs well. Next I have also included a few pictures of the standard A ICS machine I got from Mike Sorter. I almost have every standard machine made. They run from s/n 1206 to this standard C 820130 which probable was one of the last to leave the factory in the possible year of 1914 at the end of the standard production. A lot of the machines towards the last were ICS machines when they used D, E, and F machines with a X thru the model and changed to model C. Here is the prior post. from viewtopic.php?f=14&t=32483 Martin who alerted us on this machine. The top three pictures are for a very late standard C. The bottom three pictures are for a early standard A.. I am trying to show you the difference between an early standard A ICS and one of the last standard C ICS machines, It looks like the ICS machines were made from 1905 ( thanks George )to 1914 ( estimated ). The end of production of standards and homes was October 1913. The factory burned down in December 1914 and supposedly they made these thru 1914 because of demand..... Sorry about the confusion..... Tom B


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 Post subject: Re: Last chance for ICS Standard model C #820130 UPDATE
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That's a good looking machine. Nice save!

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 Post subject: Re: Last chance for ICS Standard model C #820130 UPDATE
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Congratulations on being able to save your Standard from the abyss of "hack and slash", which seems to be too prevalent sometimes.

Happy Holidays!

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 Post subject: Re: Last chance for ICS Standard model C #820130 UPDATE
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Nice rescue! That thing looks dandy.

But the case--is a banner case appropriate for a 1913-1914 phonograph? I was always under the impression that by then Edison had switched to the script. Perhaps that was on Model D and later...and this C would have had an early style decal. Ideas?


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 Post subject: Re: Last chance for ICS Standard model C #820130 UPDATE
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VanEpsFan1914 wrote:
Nice rescue! That thing looks dandy.

But the case--is a banner case appropriate for a 1913-1914 phonograph? I was always under the impression that by then Edison had switched to the script. Perhaps that was on Model D and later...and this C would have had an early style decal. Ideas?


The machine with the banner decal is a standard model a from 1901-1904. The banner decals were only used on machines up to the early model b homes, standard, triumphs, etc. Once edison ran out of the banner decals they were replaced with the simpler edison script.


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 Post subject: Re: Last chance for ICS Standard model C #820130 UPDATE
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I think the photos of the Model A International Textbook Company Standard must have been mistakenly added. The serial number of that machine indicates it left the factory about February 1905.

George P.


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 Post subject: Re: Last chance for ICS Standard model C #820130 UPDATE
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tomb wrote:
I have also included a few pictures of the standard A ICS machine I got from Mike Sorter.


He mentioned it in the first post. I too had to go back and read the fine print. ;)

Martin

BTW: Very nice job, Tom!

- MK


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 Post subject: Re: Last chance for ICS Standard model C #820130 UPDATE
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Thanks Martin - I missed that entirely! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Last chance for ICS Standard model C #820130 UPDATE
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I hope I clarified the listing. I should have explained it better when I posted it. Tom B


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 Post subject: Re: Last chance for ICS Standard model C #820130 UPDATE
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A question (not criticism). I noted that on the Model C, the two indicators (to adjust speed)etched on the carriage arm rod are on the left. I've only noted them toward the right side of machines in the past, like on the Model A. Is the placement correct? Or perhaps is the rod installed backwards?

More curious, than anything,
Bil
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