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A Haunting Photo

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:37 pm
by phonogfp
I thought I'd pass along an image my wife found online today. All I know is that it was taken in New York City, and the shop sold highly seasonal merchandise: bicycles, motorcycles, and Victor Talking Machines. But who was Miss Sigel, and how did she meet her end? (Click on the image twice to enlarge.)

George P.
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Re: A Haunting Photo

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:02 pm
by melvind
Well, I have no idea who she is but I certainly hope she wasn't run over by a Victor Talking Machine delivery truck!

Re: A Haunting Photo

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:07 pm
by maginter
phonogfp wrote:I thought I'd pass along an image my wife found online today. All I know is that it was taken in New York City, and the shop sold highly seasonal merchandise: bicycles, motorcycles, and Victor Talking Machines. But who was Miss Sigel, and how did she meet her end? (Click on the image twice to enlarge.)

George P.
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Maybe it was at the Chinese Restaurant?????? I didn't know if you you saw that on the second floor. :lol:

Re: A Haunting Photo

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:20 pm
by TinfoilPhono

Re: A Haunting Photo

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:57 pm
by Jwb88
Thanks TinfoilPhono for looking up the story so I didn't have to! Could have done without all the author's social commentary, as I intended on quickly scrolling through for the facts. Never really solved, guy seemingly got away with it. If only Chief Inspector Barnaby was around, amazing what that chap finds out in less than an hour.

Hiding the body in a trunk is at least better than getting rid of the body via the Chinese restaurant...

Re: A Haunting Photo

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:30 pm
by phonogfp
Thanks, Rene, for solving the "mystery." I thought of Googling Elsie Sigel, but I haven't been comfortable sitting in front of the computer since surgery 4 days ago.

Like JWB88, I could have done without the sketchy modern "journalism," but it's certainly an interesting, albeit tragic story. I was familiar with Elsie's grandfather (General Sigel), but never heard of poor Elsie.

Now who has a Victor (machine or record sleeve) marked by the Tiger Cycle Works Company? I wonder if it was Chinese-owned? Being in Chinatown, and judging by the name, I'd think there's a good chance.

George P.

Re: A Haunting Photo

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:40 pm
by Django
Some things never change. People are still fascinated by the murder of a beautiful young woman, and immigrants are racially profiled and persicuted. Still sad too. Interesting story.

Re: A Haunting Photo

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:59 pm
by jboger
The body wasn't found in the modern-day location of New York's Chinatown, but on 8th Avenue around 48th St. Perhaps it was a Chinese enclave back in 1909.

Re: A Haunting Photo

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:54 pm
by Curt A
Fascinating story... things haven't changed much since then except Elsie would now have met her murderer on the internet, not in a Victor shop...

Re: A Haunting Photo

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:39 am
by epigramophone
Having nothing better to do on a cold wet morning I did a little research on line.

The Tiger Cycle Works Co was located at 782 8th Avenue NYC, and a fire station now occupies the site.
A small classified advertisement in Popular Mechanics magazine for November 1910 states that the company had 40 secondhand motorcycles for sale.