Unusual Canadian Victor VV 4-3 ID Plate??

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Unusual Canadian Victor VV 4-3 ID Plate??

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A fellow collector shared some pictures of his VV 4-3 and it has an unusual ID plate. The top line says "The Gift That Keeps On Giving". I don't think I've ever seen that before. Was that a promotional thing? Also, the serial number is C18638, Canadian? Was this different than the US version?

Even though it is ID'd as VV 4-3, it has an electric motor with accompanying vent holes in the back. It also has a crank hole.

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Here's some slogan information...
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=124814

THE GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING
Goods and Services
(EXPIRED) IC 009. US 036. G & S: TALKING MACHINES AND PARTS THEREOF, TALKING MACHINES AND PARTS THEREOF ADAPTED FOR COMBINATION WITH RADIO RECEIVING SETS, AND TALKING MACHINE RECORDS. FIRST USE: 19241128. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19241128
Mark Drawing Code (5) WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR
NUMBERS IN STYLIZED FORM Serial Number 71207900
Filing Date January 9, 1925
Registration Number 0224081
Registration Date February 15, 1927
Owner Assignment Recorded ASSIGNMENT RECORDED
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Renewal 2ND RENEWAL 19670215
Live/Dead Indicator DEAD

Victor is not attached to this slogan, but G&S Talking Machines is.
Then searching G&S turned up nothing.

I guess it is to be taken with a grain of salt. :coffee:

James.

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I own 3 Orthophonic Victrolas that were sold by the Victor Talking Machine Co. of Canada : VV 4-3, VV 8-10 and VV 8-36. They all have this slogan on top of the plate. Also, all serial numbers begin with the letter C. Maybe it was a particularity of the Canadian market.

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flaprise wrote:I own 3 Orthophonic Victrolas that were sold by the Victor Talking Machine Co. of Canada : VV 4-3, VV 8-10 and VV 8-36. They all have this slogan on top of the plate. Also, all serial numbers begin with the letter C. Maybe it was a particularity of the Canadian market.

Francois
Thank you very much! Does your VV4-3 have a spring motor or an electric motor?

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Roaring20s wrote:Here's some slogan information...
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=124814

THE GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING
Goods and Services
(EXPIRED) IC 009. US 036. G & S: TALKING MACHINES AND PARTS THEREOF, TALKING MACHINES AND PARTS THEREOF ADAPTED FOR COMBINATION WITH RADIO RECEIVING SETS, AND TALKING MACHINE RECORDS. FIRST USE: 19241128. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19241128
Mark Drawing Code (5) WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR
NUMBERS IN STYLIZED FORM Serial Number 71207900
Filing Date January 9, 1925
Registration Number 0224081
Registration Date February 15, 1927
Owner Assignment Recorded ASSIGNMENT RECORDED
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Renewal 2ND RENEWAL 19670215
Live/Dead Indicator DEAD

Victor is not attached to this slogan, but G&S Talking Machines is.
Then searching G&S turned up nothing.

I guess it is to be taken with a grain of salt. :coffee:

James.
Thank you very much! That clears that up very nicely.

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CDBPDX wrote: Thank you very much! Does your VV4-3 have a spring motor or an electric motor?

Cliff


It has a spring motor.

Francois

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I found this ad coming from the San Bernardino Sun, Volume 55, Number 110, 19 December 1924.
In december 1924, before the orthophonics, they already started to use this phrase (The gift that keeps on giving) in the publicity.
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