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 Post subject: Featured Phonograph № 139 - Canadian Berliner Type A
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 6:55 pm 
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Location: Claremont, NH
Make: Canadian Berliner
Model: Type A
Serial No. 3516
Year(s) Made: ? - 1903
Original Cost: $15.00
Case Size: 4" tall, 10" wide by 10" deep
Turntable: 7" turntable
Sound-Box: Berliner Automatic Soundbox
Motor: spring, (1)
Horn Dimensions: 8.5" bell x 14" long
Reproduction Parts: crank, spring barrel, traveling arm, record hold down and main spring
Current Value: subjective and not for sale

Interesting Facts: This machine was a bit of a basket case. I had to produce a new spring barrel from grey iron. I made the traveling arm from a 100+ year old piece of quarter sawed Oak and I produced the traveling arm hardware from 1018 low carbon steel. The brake, traveling arm hardware, arm support, spring barrel and screws were plated locally. The brass bell horn was restored by John Duffy, (highly recommended). The all black horn was restored by me. The cabinet was cleaned and received a coat of shellac, (not stripped). The sound box was rebuild by me and acquired on this forum. Zwebie kindly donated the crank. I will add a picture of the motor next time I have the case open. This machine has been shown on the forum, but I wanted to add it to the archives as a featured phonograph. The elbow in the pictures is a reproduction, but it currently has an original.


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 139 - Canadian Berliner Type A
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 8:36 pm 
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Great, two outstanding Featured Phonographs in one day! I remember when you shared pictures of the restoration, admire and envy your skills. Related to a question somewhere else on the forum earlier today, this is where restoration was done perfectly and definitely increased the value dramatically.

Andreas


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 139 - Canadian Berliner Type A
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 8:40 pm 
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alang wrote:
Great, two outstanding Featured Phonographs in one day! I remember when you shared pictures of the restoration, admire and envy your skills. Related to a question somewhere else on the forum earlier today, this is where restoration was done perfectly and definitely increased the value dramatically.

Andreas


Thank you Andreas. It was a labor of love, and a fulfilling project. I am glad that I was able to get it back together.


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 139 - Canadian Berliner Type A
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 8:48 pm 
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Does the rope propel the turn table like a spring?? How does it go manually?? Very nice restoration I wish I had a little of you patience and talent. Tom


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 139 - Canadian Berliner Type A
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 9:02 pm 
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tomb wrote:
Does the rope propel the turn table like a spring?? How does it go manually?? Very nice restoration I wish I had a little of you patience and talent. Tom


At some time in the machines past, someone had cut into the spring barrel and fashioned a spool in place of the spring. It was quite clever and may have functioned until the governor failed. I don’t know if it was weight driven or if they just kept tension on the cord. It is now a fairly normal Canadian Berliner once again.


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 139 - Canadian Berliner Type A
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 10:09 pm 
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That little machine came a long way - congratulations!

George P.


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 139 - Canadian Berliner Type A
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 10:17 pm 
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Beautiful work. I'm very impressed. It looks amazing!


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 139 - Canadian Berliner Type A
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 2:21 am 
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Django wrote:
alang wrote:
Great, two outstanding Featured Phonographs in one day! I remember when you shared pictures of the restoration, admire and envy your skills. Related to a question somewhere else on the forum earlier today, this is where restoration was done perfectly and definitely increased the value dramatically.

Andreas


Thank you Andreas. It was a labor of love, and a fulfilling project. I am glad that I was able to get it back together.


You did very well. It's a true poster child for a correct restoration in my opinion.


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 139 - Canadian Berliner Type A
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 6:49 am 
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Thank you for sharing your restoration with us, you've done beautifully!

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Fran
Francis; "i" for him, "e" for her
"Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while" - the unappreciative supervisor.


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 139 - Canadian Berliner Type A
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That is some great work... just the type of restoration anyone can appreciate.
"The phonograph† is not of any commercial value."
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.

"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
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