Could someone tell me about this graphophone? Rarity, value... the guy who sells it is asking 170€ (worth it?)
PS: The graphophone comes without the horn.
Graphophone
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Re: Graphophone
Unfortunately, it also comes without the carriage and reproducer. This AT will not play in its present state.Lagge0101 wrote:Could someone tell me about this graphophone? Rarity, value... the guy who sells it is asking 170€ (worth it?)
PS: The graphophone comes without the horn.
The AT is a common model, and unless you have the missing components, this one will be difficult to get working again.
George P.
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Re: Graphophone
phonogfp wrote:Unfortunately, it also comes without the carriage and reproducer. This AT will not play in its present state.Lagge0101 wrote:Could someone tell me about this graphophone? Rarity, value... the guy who sells it is asking 170€ (worth it?)
PS: The graphophone comes without the horn.
The AT is a common model, and unless you have the missing components, this one will be difficult to get working again.
George P.
I see, I didnt notice it myself since im not that into cylinder graphophones. I will Ask the seller if he can reduce the machine to a reasonable price since there is parts missing. Thank you for the information.
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I see from your Profile (one of the very few on this forum with information in it!) that you are young and a beginning collector. My advice is to leave this one alone. If the seller gave it to you gratis you'd have a non-working common phonograph with a hammered decal and needing difficult-to-find parts. Save your money and buy a machine that will bring you satisfaction and enjoyment rather than frustration.
Best of luck!
George P.
Best of luck!
George P.
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Good advice above. That model is notorious for having an upper frame that bows upward, and that one looks like it has done that. A smaller percentage were made with cast iron, but the majority are pot metal (which distorts over time). If a magnet doesn't stick to the black painted upper part, stay away from it at any price (except if it is free). If a magnet sticks to it, you would at least have a machine that could be made to work some day. I believe you can still get a reproduction carriage and reproducers are readily available. However, even with those parts being available, and if the upper frame turns out to be cast iron, it would still be a low value machine once completed.
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Re: Graphophone
I was also going to mention the pot metal issue that this one is obviously afflicted with - you can see the gap in the middle at the "HO" in graphophone where a sizable space has opened up between black casting and the nickel base plate
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That sounds like a good idea, I dont want a non functioning machine that will cost me even more money to repair. I'll stick with your advice and leave the machine be I am still glad that i got information regarding machines like this! every bit of information, is good information!phonogfp wrote:I see from your Profile (one of the very few on this forum with information in it!) that you are young and a beginning collector. My advice is to leave this one alone. If the seller gave it to you gratis you'd have a non-working common phonograph with a hammered decal and needing difficult-to-find parts. Save your money and buy a machine that will bring you satisfaction and enjoyment rather than frustration.
Best of luck!
George P.
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Re: Graphophone
There are a number of interesting articles on the Antique Phonograph Society's web site. You might especially enjoy this one:
https://www.antiquephono.org/encounteri ... onographs/
George P.
https://www.antiquephono.org/encounteri ... onographs/
George P.