Mystery Motor - Victor?

[CDBPDX]

I just brought home a couple boxes of parts motors and found one I have not seen before. It appears to have Victor parts but is in a configuration more reminiscent of some generic motors.

Does anybody recognize this motor? It is apparently missing a spring barrel and drive gear.

Thanks! Cliff

[gramophone-georg]

Looks like an HMV portable to me.

[Kirkwood]

Looks like the one I have in my VV 1-1 (sometimes called the Victrolita). Spring barrel has the drive gear affixed to the bottom of it. I never liked that system of holding the crank in position, relies on a coiled spring wrapped around the winding shaft to keep in from unwinding backwards, propeller-like. In fact, that's what doomed my little 1-1 to the leaking barn where I found it. I'd assume it was used in portables due to economy of parts and smaller size.

[Phonofreak]

I have seen this motor in the Orthophonice era portables, also.
Harvey Kravitz

Looks like the one I have in my VV 1-1 (sometimes called the Victrolita). Spring barrel has the drive gear affixed to the bottom of it. I never liked that system of holding the crank in position, relies on a coiled spring wrapped around the winding shaft to keep in from unwinding backwards, propeller-like. In fact, that's what doomed my little 1-1 to the leaking barn where I found it. I'd assume it was used in portables due to economy of parts and smaller size.