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Re: 2 PART QUESTION ABOUT CHINESE PHONOGRAPHS
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:05 am
by soundgen
chunnybh wrote:Wow! now that's a beauty. Waring & Gillow a top end cabinet maker too.
Mike, Have you come across any blue background chinoiserie cabinets?.
Yes I have seen blue ones in the past and a couple of RED ones , but in the UK I think black ones are more common
Re: 2 PART QUESTION ABOUT CHINESE PHONOGRAPHS
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:11 am
by soundgen
PHONOMIKE wrote:Thanks everyone for the info. Does anyone know if the more common manufacturers made a Chinese painted phonograph? Popular manufacturers that come to mind are Pathé', Columbia, Sonora or others?
Mike
Columbia certainly made them in the UK , the CLPGS files I posted a link to
https://archive.org/details/thehillanda ... ads&page=1
have Columbia machine catalogues here is one with a Columbia in it
Re: 2 PART QUESTION ABOUT CHINESE PHONOGRAPHS
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:18 am
by epigramophone
Edison Bell produced the Model 248, a most imposing machine and a lot of gramophone for the money, as advertised in The Sound Wave in August 1928.
It's weakness is the complex pot metal tonearm which is prone to metal fatigue and breakage in old age. Anyone lucky enough to find one of these machines with the tonearm intact would be well advised to remove and pack it separately for transportation.
Re: 2 PART QUESTION ABOUT CHINESE PHONOGRAPHS
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:00 am
by soundgen
chunnybh wrote:Wow! now that's a beauty. Waring & Gillow a top end cabinet maker too.
Mike, Have you come across any blue background chinoiserie cabinets?.
Have you still got your Algraphone ?
https://industrialhistoryhk.org/gramoph ... hong-kong/
Re: 2 PART QUESTION ABOUT CHINESE PHONOGRAPHS
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:05 am
by soundgen
epigramophone wrote:Edison Bell produced the Model 248, a most imposing machine and a lot of gramophone for the money, as advertised in The Sound Wave in August 1928.
It's weakness is the complex pot metal tonearm which is prone to metal fatigue and breakage in old age. Anyone lucky enough to find one of these machines with the tonearm intact would be well advised to remove and pack it separately for transportation.
Re: 2 PART QUESTION ABOUT CHINESE PHONOGRAPHS
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:19 am
by estott
Re: 2 PART QUESTION ABOUT CHINESE PHONOGRAPHS
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:24 am
by estott
Sonora offered lacquer decorations in a choice of colors
Re: 2 PART QUESTION ABOUT CHINESE PHONOGRAPHS
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:48 pm
by Jerry B.
Estott, was it typical for painted Sonora machines to have paint and decorative painting only the outside of the cabinet? When I see a painted Victrola and the area under the lid is unpainted it suggests that the painting was done after it left the factory. I have never seen a decorated Sonora and yours is a lovely machine.
Jerry Blais
Re: 2 PART QUESTION ABOUT CHINESE PHONOGRAPHS
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:12 pm
by estott
Jerry B. wrote:Estott, was it typical for painted Sonora machines to have paint and decorative painting only the outside of the cabinet? When I see a painted Victrola and the area under the lid is unpainted it suggests that the painting was done after it left the factory. I have never seen a decorated Sonora and yours is a lovely machine.
Jerry Blais
Idon't know what is typical, but "Mr Victor" had a whole range of them in various colors on his (vanished) site. This was one of his, not mine, I don't know who has it now
It is quite possible that they sent stock cases out to a 3rd party decorator saying "just do the outsides".
Re: 2 PART QUESTION ABOUT CHINESE PHONOGRAPHS
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:00 pm
by chunnybh
Have you still got your Algraphone ?
Unfortunately, I never had that Algraphone. What a beauty. Here is my Algraphone Salon. Again sorry about the poor quality picture. Also a Columbia cabinet.