Paper mache Berliner trademark horn

Discussions on Talking Machines & Accessories
User avatar
Mlund2020
Victor II
Posts: 290
Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:04 pm

Paper mache Berliner trademark horn

Post by Mlund2020 »

Does anyone know any information about a paper mache horn made for Berliner trademark machines? Was this a factory produced option at one time or is it an after market piece?
Attachments
B521EF07-DB19-4348-8130-3C79306C8768.jpeg

User avatar
phonogfp
Victor Monarch Special
Posts: 7384
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:08 pm
Personal Text: "If you look for the bad in people expecting to find it, you surely will." - A. Lincoln
Location: New York's Finger Lakes

Re: Paper mache Berliner trademark horn

Post by phonogfp »

In a manner of speaking, all U.S. Berliner horns are "aftermarket pieces," since their manufacture was farmed out to sheet metal companies. That said, I'm not aware of these paper mache horns being offered by Berliner (although an owner might well have eventually encountered one in a dealership and fitted it to his Berliner).

Zonophone offered these horns in at least one catalog, dated June 10,1901. On page 24 of this catalog are listed 4 different horns for the Zonophone, among them the paper mache model, called the "Linene" horn.

Here's a Type C Zonophone equipped with one of these horns.

George P.
100_6114.JPG

User avatar
Mlund2020
Victor II
Posts: 290
Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:04 pm

Re: Paper mache Berliner trademark horn

Post by Mlund2020 »

Thanks George. I appreciate the information.

User avatar
phonogfp
Victor Monarch Special
Posts: 7384
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:08 pm
Personal Text: "If you look for the bad in people expecting to find it, you surely will." - A. Lincoln
Location: New York's Finger Lakes

Re: Paper mache Berliner trademark horn

Post by phonogfp »

You're very welcome. :)

George P.

edisonclassm
Victor II
Posts: 440
Joined: Fri May 22, 2015 9:45 am

Re: Paper mache Berliner trademark horn

Post by edisonclassm »

Hey Mike,
That looks like a Vitaphone reproducer on that Berliner. Post a closer photo of if you would. Thanks

User avatar
Mlund2020
Victor II
Posts: 290
Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:04 pm

Re: Paper mache Berliner trademark horn

Post by Mlund2020 »

edisonclassm wrote:Hey Mike,
That looks like a Vitaphone reproducer on that Berliner. Post a closer photo of if you would. Thanks

This is not my machine yet, but one that I am considering purchasing. I am told by the seller that it has a very rare Henry Jones reproducer which was a predecessor of Johnson’s New Century. Does anyone know anything about the history of the Henry Jones reproducer?

User avatar
phonogfp
Victor Monarch Special
Posts: 7384
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:08 pm
Personal Text: "If you look for the bad in people expecting to find it, you surely will." - A. Lincoln
Location: New York's Finger Lakes

Re: Paper mache Berliner trademark horn

Post by phonogfp »

patent.jpg
patent.jpg (84.81 KiB) Viewed 1607 times
George P.

TAP
Victor Jr
Posts: 26
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:32 pm

Re: Paper mache Berliner trademark horn

Post by TAP »

I did not know about Henry Jones until today. Any possibility of getting close ups of that reproducer?

User avatar
long_island_phono
Victor II
Posts: 394
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:58 am

Re: Paper mache Berliner trademark horn

Post by long_island_phono »

The reproducer in question presents a patent date stamped into the body (July 11, 1899) which relates to the following patent shown below.

-Jake
Attachments
Screen Shot 2018-09-09 at 1.34.43 PM.png

fonograph
Victor II
Posts: 382
Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:14 pm

Re: Paper mache Berliner trademark horn

Post by fonograph »

Mike, be sure to snag that Gram 0 Phone record in the background :D

Post Reply