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short victrola floor model? Educate me please!

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:17 pm
by Mormon S
Found this for $75. Seems to have been poorly painted black. Never seen one, dont know the value, any info on it?

Re: short victrola floor model? Educate me please!

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:50 pm
by VanEpsFan1914
It's probably not painted, but darkened with age, too much polish buildup, and alligatored varnish on the mahogany finish.

The machine is a Victrola Model XI, built 1920, cut down into a short cabinet by an owner. Could be interesting if reasons for conversion were known, otherwise, it's junk.

EDIT:

Actually, I'd probably not want to junk it. The reasons for this could be interesting--it might have been cut down to make it look more like a Consolette-style machine in the late 1920s, or for use in an old travel trailer, or by a disabled person. Someone obviously did a good job on the conversion, better than many...likely it's only worth about forty dollars but it's still interesting.

But if I was fixing an original then it'd probably end up a donor machine.

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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:10 pm
by Mormon S
VanEpsFan1914 wrote:It's probably not painted, but darkened with age, too much polish buildup, and alligatored varnish on the mahogany finish.

The machine is a Victrola Model XI, built 1920, cut down into a short cabinet by an owner. Could be interesting if reasons for conversion were known, otherwise, it's junk.

EDIT:

Actually, I'd probably not want to junk it. The reasons for this could be interesting--it might have been cut down to make it look more like a Consolette-style machine in the late 1920s, or for use in an old travel trailer, or by a disabled person. Someone obviously did a good job on the conversion, better than many...likely it's only worth about forty dollars but it's still interesting.

But if I was fixing an original then it'd probably end up a donor machine.
Thank you! The conversion Job really fooled me. I have heard of sawed victrolas, but the job was too well done for me to think it was a homemade conversion.

Re: short victrola floor model? Educate me please!

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:23 pm
by Jwb88
I usually hate the cut-down ones but this is done so well (relatively speaking) and it's so bizarre--I don't hate it.
Am I crazy or would it be ideal for someone in a wheelchair? Maybe if Matthew Crawley hadn't miraculously regained the use of his legs, he could have rigged up something like this. Either that or it's from Munchkinland...
As far as value, probably the sum of its parts or less, if it remains the mystery it appears--unless some enterprising person comes up with some "historical provenance" to give it :lol:

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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:46 pm
by gramophone-georg
Jwb88 wrote:I usually hate the cut-down ones but this is done so well (relatively speaking) and it's so bizarre--I don't hate it.
Am I crazy or would it be ideal for someone in a wheelchair? Maybe if Matthew Crawley hadn't miraculously regained the use of his legs, he could have rigged up something like this. Either that or it's from Munchkinland...
As far as value, probably the sum of its parts or less, if it remains the mystery it appears--unless some enterprising person comes up with some "historical provenance" to give it :lol:
Maybe Eleanor got it for Franklin.

Re: short victrola floor model? Educate me please!

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:16 pm
by Phonofolks
What does the ID plate say is the model number of this phonograph?

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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:22 pm
by Silvertone
What does the ID plate say is the model number of this phonograph?
The dataplate was shown in the original Craigslist ad identifying the machine as a VV-XI.

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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:53 pm
by Curt A
I learned, from watching TV, that many people are willing to believe made up stories from the past about various things without regard to proof. So, in keeping with this line of thinking, I propose that this Victrola was custom built for Schlitze “Schlitzie” Surtees (birth name unknown, possibly Simon Metz). He was one of the most famous “pinhead” sideshow performers in history, primarily due to his role in Tod Browning’s 1932 film Freaks. Schlitzie was only four feet tall and obviously needed a small Victrola.

Now you know the rest of the story, at least as far as I am concerned, so it must be true... :roll: :lol:
For you doubters, here's my proof: Napoleon Hill said "If I can conceive and believe in something, it must be true." And who would question him?

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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:32 pm
by gramophone-georg
HEY!!! I thought I told you NOT to post my damn picture! Thanks Pally! :evil:

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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:48 pm
by Curt A
gramophone-georg wrote:HEY!!! I thought I told you NOT to post my damn picture! Thanks Pally! :evil:
Sorry George, I forgot our agreement... :oops: :roll: :? :lol: ;)