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 Post subject: tungs tone needles usable?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:00 pm 
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Victor Jr
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I found some tungs tone needles. are they safe to use?


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 Post subject: Re: tungs tone needles usable?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:08 pm 
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Victor V
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They last a very long time.... which means your records won't. I believe most people use them as decoration.


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 Post subject: Re: tungs tone needles usable?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:49 pm 
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Victor O
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If you are sure they are new I would use them a few times. If you are not sure then maybe not.
Like Jerry said 'decoration' . I think they look cool displayed with your phonograph or records .


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 Post subject: Re: tungs tone needles usable?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:56 pm 
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Victor IV
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I use em.


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 Post subject: Re: tungs tone needles usable?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:30 pm 
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If they still have visible wire and aren't bent they are usable. I've found that on good clean records they behave well, on old and worn discs, not so good.

Save them for playing multi-disc classical sets


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 Post subject: Re: tungs tone needles usable?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:48 pm 
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Victor II
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Just to be safe, I never use any needles I find in a machine. I love my records too much!


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 Post subject: Re: tungs tone needles usable?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:28 pm 
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Victor IV
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Steel needles found in unsealed packets/tins or loose, yeah, probably a bad bet. You can test them if no known good ones are around and you need a needle, by rotating the needle between thumb and index finger while looking at the tip under strong bright light. A used needle will flash from the tip - the worn facet reflecting the light momentarily.

Tungstones are a totally different situation. As long as you see a protruding tip of wire coming out of the tip, it’s usable and safe. Best place to find em is mixed in with used regular needles, in fact.


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 Post subject: Re: tungs tone needles usable?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:49 pm 
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Victor V
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Tungstone needles have about 7 mil radius at the tip when new. Tungsten wire doesn't wear as fast as steel either, so the question is moot. If you want to wear out your records, play them with Tungstone needles.


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 Post subject: Re: tungs tone needles usable?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:24 am 
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Victor IV
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Since all my 78s are new old unplayed dealer stock, maybe I’ll think again.


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 Post subject: Re: tungs tone needles usable?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:08 am 
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It is the only thing to use on Victor Automatic Electrolas. All records from a dealer stock stash?
I am sure there is going to be some small amount of wear. But I still want to play my automatics.


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