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 Post subject: Re: The Last Known Edison Amberola 30? Maybe...Maybe Not?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:58 pm 
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Just to add a little something to this discussion. The mandrel on your machine looks very much like the mandrel on an Amberola Model 60. Look at the pictures, yours on top and the Model 60 below.

Rich Gordon


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 Post subject: Re: The Last Known Edison Amberola 30? Maybe...Maybe Not?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:57 pm 
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VanEpsFan1914 wrote:
I think the OP's machine is really neat--I never saw that lid before.


NEFaurora wrote:
"They look like the same exact lid to me... How is his lid any different than yours that is pictured... Am I missing something here?!??Tony K.


Tony,
There is a very noticeable difference between my very late Amberola 30 lid and Charles' (VanEpsFan1914) Amberola 30 lid that he kindly posted earlier.

Please see the arrows in each of the pictures that I have provided below.

The first picture shows my Amberola 30 with an arrow pointing directly at the difference. Mine has no "lip" on the lid which I had indicated earlier makes lifting the lid off the cabinet bottom very awkward indeed. Notice how my lid is squared off on the bottom.

The second picture shows Charles' Amberola 30 with an arrow pointing directly at the lid "LIP" which is commonly found on the Amberola 30 lids and which makes lifting the lid simple.

I hope that the pictures clarify your inquiry.

Doug


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 Post subject: Re: The Last Known Edison Amberola 30? Maybe...Maybe Not?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:43 am 
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"Mine has no "lip" on the lid which I had indicated earlier makes lifting the lid off the cabinet bottom very awkward indeed. Notice how my lid is squared off on the bottom."


Ok, I see it now... That is interesting. I've never seen that before in an Amberola 30 Lid either... Very Strange indeed.

What I would do is look on the bottom of your Amberola 30 and see if there are any remnants of a Cabinet Factory Decal... See Example pics below. All these lids and Cabinets were made by hand...keep that in mind along with the fact that Edison had concurrently used something like up to 22 Separate Cabinet Factories including his own.

Look on the bottom of your Amberola 30 for a decal like this.. I would "Assume" that this "odd" lid was probably the product of a Specific Edison Cabinet factory. I've never seen another one like it anywhere.. We used to have a list somewhere...Someone had posted it in past threads that tried to match up the Cabinet Factory Number with the actual name of the Cabinet factory.. Anyone have a copy of it??? It would concern Diamond Disc machines as well. I'm sure that someone will re-post it here.

:o)

Tony K.

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 Post subject: Re: The Last Known Edison Amberola 30? Maybe...Maybe Not?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:17 am 
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According to Ronald Dethlefson's book Edison Blue Amberol Recordings 1915-1929 regular Amberola production appears to have stopped as of June 30,1922.Amberolas 30,50,and 75 sold after that date were probably from existing stock.edisonplayer


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 Post subject: Re: The Last Known Edison Amberola 30? Maybe...Maybe Not?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:32 am 
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Could you Please post a much better Pic of the Amberola 30 #229834 dataplate "for the record" here. The last pic you posted of the Dataplate was kind of fuzzy and not very good..

Much Thanks,

Tony K.

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