To be a Home C or not a Home C plate
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To be a Home C or not a Home C plate
I acquired this from a friend with a trade. It as a home plate without an ID tag. From all the numbers on the top and bottom it seems to me a Home model C The serial numbers on the top and bottom match although the top numbers that were under the plate are harder to read due to the coatings and finish. I have highlighted one picture to show that. I believe I will leave it this way as I will never be able to locate the plate that goes with this and it seems to document itself. Here a few pictures to post your agreement or disagreement. I am open to comment. Tom
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Re: To be a Home C or not a Home C plate
Edison and/or victor ID plates pop up here and there, however the serial number wouldn't match and would most likely be inaccurate with the period of production. Others may have a different opinion, but I would leave it the way it is. I think it would look better if you clean it with McGuire's scratch x 2.0
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Re: To be a Home C or not a Home C plate
I will agree that it is in fact a "C"
1: No endgate
2: Striping is earlier than a "D" which has the gold/blue striping
3: Base cabinet is the earlier type before the "D"
1: No endgate
2: Striping is earlier than a "D" which has the gold/blue striping
3: Base cabinet is the earlier type before the "D"
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Re: To be a Home C or not a Home C plate
I have at least one Edison Home model D here (and stamped 'D' on the ID plate) with original gold bed plate striping (with tufts of grass in the corners) and the earlier Edison Home Model B and Model C cabinet. I purchased it from the original owner's family about 20 years ago. So, I don't believe that all Edison Home model D's had the blue/gold bed plate striping and later cabinet. I also have an Edison Home model C here but I have to dig it out of hiding. When I do I'll post a picture of the ID plate as a reference to the serial number you have on this one.
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Re: To be a Home C or not a Home C plate
The cast "C" suffix in the bed plate would certainly argue in favor of this being a Model C Home. (Obviously it has had an Amberol Attachment added at some point.)
The first of the Model C and even D Homes and Standards retained the low base cabinets and earlier-style pinstriping/corner decorations. Keep in mind that Model C and Model D Standards/Homes were manufactured side-by-side for a few years so both can be found with early and late characteristics.
I'd agree to leave this example as it is.
George P.
The first of the Model C and even D Homes and Standards retained the low base cabinets and earlier-style pinstriping/corner decorations. Keep in mind that Model C and Model D Standards/Homes were manufactured side-by-side for a few years so both can be found with early and late characteristics.
I'd agree to leave this example as it is.
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Re: To be a Home C or not a Home C plate
Interesting. I think the serial number is 340213. That would put it pretty close to the highest number model C that I've seen (338709). I'm also pretty sure that there is another, fainter serial number above and to the left in the underside version. It looks like another number completely - maybe "2962..."? Maybe it was a partial incorrect punch? Anyway, it's soft of fun to contemplate what happened at the factory. Thanks for sharing, Tom!
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Re: To be a Home C or not a Home C plate
If I could find an appropriate plate I would affix it but use a letter stamp to XXXX out the serial number, that way it will be clear that the number is/was incorrect, but the unit will be more complete... just my personal preference. Museum restorations of artifacts will often recreate missing parts in a way that it is obvious that they are not original, if they add to the understanding of the whole. In this case I think the plate sans original number would do that
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Re: To be a Home C or not a Home C plate
I'll bet that plate is still out there - either on somebody's machine or in somebody's parts bin. They're small and easy to store (unlike bedplates). Keep checking ebay!
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Re: To be a Home C or not a Home C plate
As promised, I dug out and blew the dust off my Edison Home model C. Mine was also updated with 2/4 minute gearing by the original owner. Finding a loose Edison Home model C ID plate will be a real challenge. I've only found a precious two Edison Home model C's (complete and original) in many years of diligent searching. This one here and one that I foolishly passed on almost 30 years ago. They're MUCH harder to find than the Edison Standard model C.FellowCollector wrote: I also have an Edison Home model C here but I have to dig it out of hiding. When I do I'll post a picture of the ID plate as a reference to the serial number you have on this one.
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Re: To be a Home C or not a Home C plate
Thanks for the comments and pictures. I was wondering about the striping in that it was a old style single stripe. It will remain as it is with no ID plate. I would be like hitting the lottery to find the correct one. It does play 2 minute cylinders now but it needs improvement. I will finish cleaning it up and improving the mechanical side.. The original shaft and mandrel had been ruined with vice grips and the replacement shaft is borderline. I used the original mandrel but it is a little loose on the new shaft. I will replace them and try to locate a better mandrel with the correct shaft and bearing. It takes a 11 ½ inch shaft which is a little off of the replacement I put on. I will try the yankee trader after I figure out everything I need. Tom