Anybody good at brazing

Discussions on Talking Machines & Accessories
Post Reply
User avatar
chrisg
Victor III
Posts: 548
Joined: Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:24 am
Location: North Carolina
Contact:

Anybody good at brazing

Post by chrisg »

Two tone arms in my parts bin are in need of brazing. One Victor 2 and one columbia rear mount. Any leads
Attachments
IMG_20190307_43627.jpg
IMG_20190307_43627.jpg (92.42 KiB) Viewed 773 times
IMG_20190307_33559.jpg
IMG_20190307_33559.jpg (78.7 KiB) Viewed 773 times

JerryVan
Victor Monarch Special
Posts: 5334
Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:08 pm
Location: Southeast MI

Re: Anybody good at brazing

Post by JerryVan »

Do NOT braze those. They need to be carefully cleaned and soldered.

Is the Columbia arm aluminum? If so, that brass elbow does not belong with it and neither solder nor brazing will work on aluminum.

Jerry B.
Victor Monarch Special
Posts: 8515
Joined: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:25 am
Personal Text: Stop for a visit when in Oregon.
Location: Albany, Oregon

Re: Anybody good at brazing

Post by Jerry B. »

Would a tab of carefully placed JB Weld do the job?

Jerry B.

User avatar
VictrolaGuy - Walt
Victor Jr
Posts: 49
Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:18 pm

Re: Anybody good at brazing

Post by VictrolaGuy - Walt »

chrisg wrote:Two tone arms in my parts bin are in need of brazing. One Victor 2 and one columbia rear mount. Any leads
All of the parts you show are brass. Both need to be cleaned and soldered, not brazed. A common propane torch, a dab of flux, and a very short length of solder is really all you need.

Regarding the Columbia: The end of the tone arm appears to have been torn out and probably needs to be "cleaned up" before it can be reattached. Once that issue has been addressed be careful when heating and reattaching it to the elbow so that you do not inadvertently over heat and cause the reproducer mount to separate (because it also is merely soldered).


NOTE: Try to heat the metal indirectly. That is, do not apply the flame directly at the joint, but instead heat the sections slightly away from the joint and let the heat build. Hitting the joint directly with the flame will cause a layer of oxidation to form which, even when fluxed, can cause difficulty in obtaining a strong and GOOD LOOKING connection (emphasis on GOOD LOOKING).

User avatar
startgroove
Victor III
Posts: 887
Joined: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:01 pm
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon

Re: Anybody good at brazing

Post by startgroove »

While a flame is an okay way to solder, the better way is to use a high wattage soldering iron, 1000 watts or more. The reason being that a flame is very difficult to control the heat transfer on, with the flame temperature being thousands of degrees too hot. The parts will get hot very fast, and by the time the user recognizes that point, the solder will begin to decompose. In addition, a flame causes the heat to spread throughout the part, resulting in bluing of the finish, and sometimes a breakdown in the nickel plating. An iron on the other hand has controlled heat just above the melting point of solder, much easier to control and will not discolor the surrounding plating.

Post Reply