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 Post subject: Re: New amberola 30 project
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:57 pm 
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I think that the Bedplate/Motor might be a 2nd Series Bedplate Motor in a 1st Series Wood Case...

We need more pics of the Bedplate and Left side of the machine to be able to tell..

Tony K.

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 Post subject: Re: New amberola 30 project
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:49 pm 
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Sorry for the florencently lit photo, but here you go.

Also, I fully intend to keep every part of this machine (thank you Jerry for the offer)

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 Post subject: Re: New amberola 30 project
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:35 pm 
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Yeah, I think my last assumption was correct.. It looks like it's a Mix-Match of Series 1 Bedplate, Motor and and some Series 2 Parts in a Series 1 Case. The Reproducer is a Series 2 / Series 3 Reproducer among other things.


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 Post subject: Re: New amberola 30 project
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:51 pm 
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I was very surprised when I opened the spring barell. I have never seen anything like this, someone made the shaft much thicker, and also "repaired" the spring.


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 Post subject: Re: New amberola 30 project
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:08 am 
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How about a pic of the Dataplate, and a pic of the top of the Black Governor cover...

That will help as well.

I noticed that the horn is a Late Series 1 Horn, But the Holder/Pivot Point for the horn is homemade!

The Homemade winder assembly looks interesting! Post more pics!

Someone apparently did some "Freestyling" repairs on this thing...


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 Post subject: Re: New amberola 30 project
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:13 am 
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Here's the picture of the data plate and governor cover, and of course theres no external speed control or hole for it, as I've stated earlier on the thread.

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 Post subject: Re: New amberola 30 project
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 1:07 am 
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Yeah, That's a Series 1 Dataplate.. That Governor Cover is a Series 2 Governor Cover though. A Series 1 Governor cover has the hole for external Speed Adjuster. Your machine correctly came with a Nickeled Reproducer for sure Originally. The Bedplate seems to be a Series 1 Bedplate as it has the early Countersunk Screwholes. Don't know about some of the other Motor parts as I can't see them..

What are your plans for the machine??

Here are some Series 1 Bedplates w/Motors on ebay that could save you some time and money on the restoration... I think that they are both the same item... Seller is well known (Mark)...Croakinfrog..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EDISON-AMBEROL ... 2518321183

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/EDISON-AMBEROL ... 2556225652


Here is the correct Governor cover..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EARLY-EDISON-P ... 2622828573


Here is the correct Speed Control Knob...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EDISON-AMBEROL ... 2655802873


Here is the correct Nickeled Reproducer..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Ediso ... 3184849963


All the parts are sold by the same seller (Croakinfrog) who is Mark Geiser.


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 Post subject: Re: New amberola 30 project
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:08 am 
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NEFaurora wrote:
Yeah, That's a Series 1 Dataplate.. That Governor Cover is a Series 2 Governor Cover though. A Series 1 Governor cover has the hole for external Speed Adjuster. Your machine correctly came with a Nickeled Reproducer for sure Originally. The Bedplate seems to be a Series 1 Bedplate as it has the early Countersunk Screwholes. Don't know about some of the other Motor parts as I can't see them..

What are your plans for the machine??

Here are some Series 1 Bedplates w/Motors on ebay that could save you some time and money on the restoration... I think that they are both the same item... Seller is well known (Mark)...Croakinfrog..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EDISON-AMBEROL ... 2518321183

and...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EDISON-AMBEROL ... 2556225652


Here is the correct Governor cover..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EARLY-EDISON-P ... 2622828573


Here is the correct Speed Control Knob...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EDISON-AMBEROL ... 2655802873


Here is the correct Nickeled Reproducer..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Ediso ... 3184849963


All the parts are sold by the same seller (Croakinfrog) who is Mark Geiser.


Tony K.

Edison Collector/Restorer

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While I appreciate you're enthusiasm, I think our methods of approach are far apart. I'm well aware of all of the issues it has, but I will do my best with what I have. This is just a "for fun" project, an amberola 30, something I can experiment new things on and divert from the typical routine I take in a restoration. I'm going to keep all of these parts together and not worry about the fact that they got jumbled up at some point.

Martin


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 Post subject: Re: New amberola 30 project
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:25 am 
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I look forward to seeing what you do with it... Keep posting pics as you work on it...

I have the popcorn ready..



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 Post subject: Re: New amberola 30 project
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:59 pm 
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Awesome!

I just picked up an Amberola 30 in very poor shape as well. Probably won't get around to it until July or so.

Look forward to following!


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