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 Post subject: Is this authentic? Can someone please help!
PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:34 pm 
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Victor Jr
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Hello, my wife really wants something like this, a person is selling it for $350 with 60 albums. Can anyone please help and let me know if they think it is
all real and is it worth it? There is no plate anywhere with a serial number. The owner checked all over. We are going Sunday to look at it.
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Thank You So much!

Tony


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 Post subject: Re: Is this authentic? Can someone please help!
PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:36 pm 
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Victor III
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It is a modern creation using some old junk parts.
Stay away from it!!


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 Post subject: Re: Is this authentic? Can someone please help!
PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:44 pm 
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It is what collectors call a Crapophone - or being charitable, a Frankenphone. It appears to be put together better than many such creations I've seen, but certainly not worth $350 - maybe $100 to 150, but I'm certainly not recommending it. Save your money 'til something better comes along.


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 Post subject: Re: Is this authentic? Can someone please help!
PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:54 pm 
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Good advice above. That appears to have a motor from a Victor Victrola, a reproducer from an earlier Victor, a horn that was made in India with a new Victor decal applied to it, and a Columbia Grafophone decal applied to some panel that is oak, while the cabinet appears to be mahogany! Someone purposely created a Frankenstein piece. Value about $100.


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 Post subject: Re: Is this authentic? Can someone please help!
PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:11 pm 
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Does anyone know where I can get a good one? Just keep looking I guess?


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 Post subject: Re: Is this authentic? Can someone please help!
PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:26 pm 
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Do NOT buy this agglomeration of mismatched parts (well, maybe $25 for the parts... )

I found my Victor IV, in almost-new condition, by pouring over Craig's List for about 6 months. They do turn up - good luck to you!


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 Post subject: Re: Is this authentic? Can someone please help!
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Thank you so much for your input, I am going to stay on these boards and try to learn some stuff so I can get something good for my wife. You all save me a lot of money .


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 Post subject: Re: Is this authentic? Can someone please help!
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:17 am 
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amd250 wrote:
Thank you so much for your input, I am going to stay on these boards and try to learn some stuff so I can get something good for my wife. You all save me a lot of money .


If you want restored and guaranteed, go to www.victor-victrola.com This is Paul Edie's renowned site. He sell restored Victors, and Victrolas. His items are some of the best available.


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 Post subject: Re: Is this authentic? Can someone please help!
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We had the "Sounds of Nostalgia" phonograph/radio sale in Portland, OR recently. One of the machines I sold was a Standard Type A disc machine. It had the original blue horn and all parts were 100% correct. The motor was serviced and the reproducer was rebuilt. There are good values out there. It sold for $350.

Jerry Blais


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 Post subject: Re: Is this authentic? Can someone please help!
PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:34 pm 
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Keep looking for something else. Previous posts have shared good advice. If possible, go to a phonograph show (Union in June is a great one). I bought my authentic Vic III at a show. It was nice to be able to walk around, look at the various phonographs for sale, and then find one that fit the budget.


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