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 Post subject: Is this Columbia Grafonola for real?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:00 pm 
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Victor IV
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I spotted this today -- https://www.etsy.com/listing/699274697/ ... llery-1-20
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It's identified as a Columbia Grafonola Phonograph, but I've never seen one like it.

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 Post subject: Re: Is this Columbia Grafonola for real?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:46 pm 
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I have good days...this might not be one of them
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It is one of their Client machines- sometimes labeled as the "BZH Hornless Gramophone"


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 Post subject: Re: Is this Columbia Grafonola for real?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:08 pm 
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estott wrote:
It is one of their Client machines- sometimes labeled as the "BZH Hornless Gramophone"


Many thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: Is this Columbia Grafonola for real?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:11 pm 
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Yes, it is a BZH that was muddled to death. First, the case was refinished with a new Columbia decal. These machines never had a decal. The arm looks funny as with the reproducer. The grill had it's bluing removed. The corner columns are missing. The motor should be an early push-pull one used on early horn machines. The motor is a swap. Stay away from this piece of junk.
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 Post subject: Re: Is this Columbia Grafonola for real?
PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 11:57 am 
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Phonofreak wrote:
Yes, it is a BZH that was muddled to death. First, the case was refinished with a new Columbia decal. These machines never had a decal. The arm looks funny as with the reproducer. The grill had it's bluing removed. The corner columns are missing. The motor should be an early push-pull one used on early horn machines. The motor is a swap. Stay away from this piece of junk.
Harvey Kravitz


Hi Harvey:

Many thanks. It's certainly one to avoid.

I did a little googling and spotted some threads about this model on this forum, such as: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5317&p=30497&hilit=BZH#p30497

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