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 Post subject: Victor VI cabinet identification
PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 11:52 am 
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Hello everyone!

I am new here as a result of coming across a VI!!! It was sitting on top of a VV-XI cabinet.

I have already been conducting some research into cabinets and understand the matching piece is quite rare.

Hoping someone can help me understand if Herzog and Talking Machine Co. were the only manufacturers of the "correct" cabinets to match the Victor VI, or were there others?
I am assuming these cabinets did not have a ID tag referencing Victrola... or did they?

Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Victor VI cabinet identification
PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:45 pm 
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Hi, I am not exactly sure what the question is -

1. Yes others made cabinets that a Victor VI can sit on. The "Talking Machine Company of Chicago" marketed a cabinet specifically as "The Cabinet that Matches".
2. To my knowledge they did not have name tags, and they did not say Victrola.

You should purchase the Fabrizio & Paul book called "Gadjets, Gizmos & Gimmicks" It details many of the variations of cabinets that can work under a Victor VI (not Victrola VI).

Here are a couple that I have and had in my possession. The darker one is Herzog, I am unsure of the maker of the other, but my VI fit the top molding perfectly.

Herzog made many other cool cabinets that would go nicely under a Vic VI.

John


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 Post subject: Re: Victor VI cabinet identification
PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:00 pm 
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Hi John,

Basically, I was wondering if Talking Machine Company and Herzog were the only producers of cabinets considered to be a "correct" or "matching" companion to the Vic VI

Thank you for helpful information, photos and book reference!


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 Post subject: Re: Victor VI cabinet identification
PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:40 pm 
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The Salter Manufacturing Company also offered record cabinets for the Victor VI. I suspect there were others among the various cabinet manufacturers, especially from the Cadillac Cabinet Company, Douglas Phonograph Company, Humphrey Bookcase Company, George A. Long cabinet Company, Lyon & Healy, Musical Echo Company, Pooley Furniture Company, or the Udell Works. Unfortunately, many surviving record cabinets are unmarked.

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 Post subject: Re: Victor VI cabinet identification
PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 1:58 pm 
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Hi George,

Thank you for the info!

So it would appear that one must try to find reprints of the original catalogs in order to obtain visual references. I am hoping to find some references in the book suggested by John.

I also just discovered that Victrola didn't make a specific cabinet for the external horn models like the Vic VI.


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 Post subject: Re: Victor VI cabinet identification
PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 2:10 pm 
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dbwest wrote:
Hi George,

Thank you for the info!

So it would appear that one must try to find reprints of the original catalogs in order to obtain visual references. I am hoping to find some references in the book suggested by John.

I also just discovered that Victrola didn't make a specific cabinet for the external horn models like the Vic VI.

Fyi, (in case you're not aware) George is the author of the book mentioned by John. :)

Best,
Fran
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 Post subject: Re: Victor VI cabinet identification
PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 3:16 pm 
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dbwest wrote:
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So it would appear that one must try to find reprints of the original catalogs in order to obtain visual references. I am hoping to find some references in the book suggested by John.


Forum member Shawn O'Rourke offers excellent reprints of several catalogs for phonograph cabinets. He even offers them at half price this month. Here is a link to a recent post. Make sure to download the attachment "Paper Pages.pdf" with the complete list. http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=40202

Andreas


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 Post subject: Re: Victor VI cabinet identification
PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 3:31 pm 
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When I think of a "matching" cabinet I think of a cabinet that was made for a specific machine. John's second photo shows a cabinet with trim used to define the area where the specific machine is placed and it should take up that entire area. Please show us a photo of your Victor VI and cabinet. Jerry B.


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 Post subject: Re: Victor VI cabinet identification
PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 4:37 pm 
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fran604g wrote:
dbwest wrote:
Hi George,

Thank you for the info!

So it would appear that one must try to find reprints of the original catalogs in order to obtain visual references. I am hoping to find some references in the book suggested by John.

I also just discovered that Victrola didn't make a specific cabinet for the external horn models like the Vic VI.

Fyi, (in case you're not aware) George is the author of the book mentioned by John. :)

Best,
Fran

Ha! I had no idea, but it looks like I am on the right track! :D


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 Post subject: Re: Victor VI cabinet identification
PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 4:41 pm 
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Just wanted to express my appreciation to everyone who provided the great info to get me headed in the right direction.

Thank you!

Dino


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